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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:33:02 am PST #5373 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We will send an email to votes@buffistas.org, which will forward to jengod, who will tally them.


Lyra Jane - Feb 25, 2003 11:34:45 am PST #5374 of 10001
Up with the sun

We will send an email to votes@buffistas.org, which will forward to jengod, who will tally them.

Right, I got that. What I was asking was if we're setting up a web page like the one you reach if you click email admins. It sounds like not, but I wanted to check.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:36:28 am PST #5375 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

At this point, no. We're just sending regular old emails. And I don't know if jen's around, or how much she cares about how we format these emails.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:37:51 am PST #5376 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Liese, I'm sorry about the week thing and your travel schedule. But you're likely to be around for most things, right? I mean, when we talk about seven days, they can start on any day of the week. So, that's something?


Liese S. - Feb 25, 2003 11:41:51 am PST #5377 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Right, I just feel that a week is a fairly reasonable amount of time that someone would be out of the conversation. (Me, me, me) But yes, if it works out that way, I'll participate when possible. Like now.

I'm about to post and run, but I was just reading the old TT bureaucracy to get a feel for how we used to do things, before there were any moderators of our own. It seemed okay.

My humorous observation was, we were concerned about two things 1) would we be able to afford our own board? and 2) we were afraid we wouldn't have any new people once we were out in the wide web, and no longer getting promotion from being beside Joyce's articles.

Heh.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:49:20 am PST #5378 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Classic. We even got new people all hidden away at WX!

But I don't think you can understate the difference between being under the umbrella of TT, and having to follow their rules, and making up all the rules ourselves. It's like we're in our first apartment, you know?


Cindy - Feb 25, 2003 11:50:57 am PST #5379 of 10001
Nobody

Liese - Jon also mentioned business trips and there was positive response to a an absentee ballot idea.

My own problem with the consensus method was just that I don't think we always reached it, it just appeared as if we did, because whomever spoke last seemed to gain the most momentum. This may not get any more formal than voting on things. It may not even get that far if people vote against voting - which is an option.

My two cents about the ballot is that it should be very simple -- something with just the item number and the yes or no, so like...

Item 1: no

Item 2: no

Item 3: no

Item 4: no.

When the motion is posted in press, it should contain a sample of what kind of email to send. Since jengod is counting this time, jengod, do you have a preference for how people send you their votes?


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:53:04 am PST #5380 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Honestly, Cindy, I should just shup up and let you post for me all the time.


Cindy - Feb 25, 2003 11:55:04 am PST #5381 of 10001
Nobody

I dunno, Jesse. I'm sitting here reading Liese's post and reminding myself that when I first found the Buffistas (at WXing no less) that I vowed I'd just stay in the topic threads. Liese, that's not a slap at you, either. It's a I-hate-politics-so-what-am-I-doing kick in my own pants. I want to wave a magic wand and give each Buffista his or her own private version of their favorite things about the Buffistas.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:59:42 am PST #5382 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well, I for one am glad you are helping us all think through all this stuff. Because I can think of few things more important than governance. I mean, once we know what the rules are, and how we're going to do things, it should cut down on so much handwringing and bad feeling. (Not to get all real-life, but it's like the 2000 presidential election -- Democrats aren't pissed off because their guy lost, but because they don't think it was done fairly.)