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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Cindy - Feb 25, 2003 11:55:04 am PST #5381 of 10001
Nobody

I dunno, Jesse. I'm sitting here reading Liese's post and reminding myself that when I first found the Buffistas (at WXing no less) that I vowed I'd just stay in the topic threads. Liese, that's not a slap at you, either. It's a I-hate-politics-so-what-am-I-doing kick in my own pants. I want to wave a magic wand and give each Buffista his or her own private version of their favorite things about the Buffistas.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:59:42 am PST #5382 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Well, I for one am glad you are helping us all think through all this stuff. Because I can think of few things more important than governance. I mean, once we know what the rules are, and how we're going to do things, it should cut down on so much handwringing and bad feeling. (Not to get all real-life, but it's like the 2000 presidential election -- Democrats aren't pissed off because their guy lost, but because they don't think it was done fairly.)


Kat - Feb 25, 2003 12:03:05 pm PST #5383 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Democrats aren't pissed off because their guy lost, but because they don't think it was done fairly.)

Except for me. I'm also pissed that my guy lost (sorry for any inadvertant earwormage).

I'm glad we are having this discussion because I think figuring out how we decide things is a necessary component of deciding who we want to be.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 12:10:16 pm PST #5384 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'm also pissed that my guy lost

Well, yeah, but you know what I'm saying -- poorly designed and implemented processes lead to a lot more bad feelings than just losing, I think.


Cindy - Feb 25, 2003 12:12:30 pm PST #5385 of 10001
Nobody

I found it kind of comforting, because I could blame W's shennanigans (I think I have too many letters in that) rather than face the fact that it never should have been that close of a race in the first place.


Jon B. - Feb 25, 2003 12:30:30 pm PST #5386 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Cindy - If it hasn't been said enough, I think you've done an amazing job of writing the ballot questions.

I was just thinking about the web-based email form, and I think it wouldn't be difficult to code (especially with the "E-mail Admins" page as a template). IF (and that's a big bold if) I have time tonight, and IF ita supports me (in that she may have reasons why she doesn't want it done this way), I may be able to code up a page quick and dirty that automatically sends an email to the votes@ address.


jengod - Feb 25, 2003 1:06:38 pm PST #5387 of 10001

I am around! I'm working and therefore not here 100%, but I'm here.

Again, all I really ask is that you start out with:

My username is Anathema/Jesse/victor infante

After that the following would be a good format, but I'm flexible:

1. YES
2. NO
3. etc.


Cindy - Feb 25, 2003 1:40:59 pm PST #5388 of 10001
Nobody

Question - do we want to wait for Jon, or announce now what the ballot would be like.

John, we would want (if possible) a field for Buffista name, so that jengod can ensure against duplicate votes.


Cindy - Feb 25, 2003 1:41:50 pm PST #5389 of 10001
Nobody

serial...

Jon, Jesse, thank you for every nice thing you've said. The Buffistas are an unfailing good group of people to know. I just want everyone to be happy.


Burrell - Feb 25, 2003 1:52:10 pm PST #5390 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Okay, having just now read about 100 or so of 400 posts:

I am very much with Liese. Why is voting only open for two days? What's the rush? I'm also finding the formalization ugly and, as Hec said, "bogging down." But my biggest concern is that hundreds of Buffistas have no idea what the fancy new voting procedure is. So is there any plan to announce that too?