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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:26:31 am PST #5369 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

So, on the real, does anyone object to voting on Cindy's proposal, starting at midnight?


Jon B. - Feb 25, 2003 11:27:07 am PST #5370 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

I'm all for the voting.


Lyra Jane - Feb 25, 2003 11:30:32 am PST #5371 of 10001
Up with the sun

What form will the votes be in? I get that we're doing it via email, but will there be a web page to send mail from, or will it just be standard email? (Sorry if I sound daft -- I'm not great on technology.) And will we ask people send in their votes in a standard format to ease tallying?


Liese S. - Feb 25, 2003 11:32:55 am PST #5372 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I'm with Dana in the "I'm out of town now, why?"

- First, I oppose 3/4 day span. I will always be out of town for a full week, once a month, every month. But that's just me. If the consensus is consensed, I'll go with the flow.

- Second, I'm very sorry that we are in this discussion, that people have serious problems with the way things have run in the past, and that we're formalizing. I had felt very pleased with the consensus (consensi?) we'd appeared to have come to in the past, and I apologize personally to those who felt inadequately represented in the past, or who were unhappy with the decisions that were put in place. I'm really disappointed that consensus didn't work. I'm disappointed that consensus cannot continue to work.

- Lastly, good luck, and will someone please email me at my profile addy when a vote is being taken, because I find it unlikely that I will be able to keep up with this debate from the road.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:33:02 am PST #5373 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

We will send an email to votes@buffistas.org, which will forward to jengod, who will tally them.


Lyra Jane - Feb 25, 2003 11:34:45 am PST #5374 of 10001
Up with the sun

We will send an email to votes@buffistas.org, which will forward to jengod, who will tally them.

Right, I got that. What I was asking was if we're setting up a web page like the one you reach if you click email admins. It sounds like not, but I wanted to check.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:36:28 am PST #5375 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

At this point, no. We're just sending regular old emails. And I don't know if jen's around, or how much she cares about how we format these emails.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:37:51 am PST #5376 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Liese, I'm sorry about the week thing and your travel schedule. But you're likely to be around for most things, right? I mean, when we talk about seven days, they can start on any day of the week. So, that's something?


Liese S. - Feb 25, 2003 11:41:51 am PST #5377 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Right, I just feel that a week is a fairly reasonable amount of time that someone would be out of the conversation. (Me, me, me) But yes, if it works out that way, I'll participate when possible. Like now.

I'm about to post and run, but I was just reading the old TT bureaucracy to get a feel for how we used to do things, before there were any moderators of our own. It seemed okay.

My humorous observation was, we were concerned about two things 1) would we be able to afford our own board? and 2) we were afraid we wouldn't have any new people once we were out in the wide web, and no longer getting promotion from being beside Joyce's articles.

Heh.


Jesse - Feb 25, 2003 11:49:20 am PST #5378 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Classic. We even got new people all hidden away at WX!

But I don't think you can understate the difference between being under the umbrella of TT, and having to follow their rules, and making up all the rules ourselves. It's like we're in our first apartment, you know?