ita -which is why I agreed there is not alternative. All of that stuff including the HTML would be easy for me to do. But doing it ad hoc like that would mean it is not optimized and would create server load. So you are right that with our database load problems it is not practical. That is why I tried to withdraw the suggestion. But it is in the proposal now (even though I'm the only one who brought it up) and now I'm going to have to vote against my own proposal, because there was a good reason not to do it I did not see. Which is another argument for requiring a minimum of support before something is brought to a vote.

Are we allowed to propose amendments to Cindy's proposals? 'Cause I like Item 4 except I think there should be an exception for major holidays. For example, Xmas this year falls on a Thursday. I think it's fair to say that a large number of folks will be offline from Wednesday 12/24 through Sunday 12/28. If someone proposed something on Xmas eve, lots of folks would miss all the discussion. Which is a long-winded way of saying maybe we should add a sentence "Discussion and/or voting could be extended in the event of major holidays."

Billytea, my idea is hinging on that once it's been opened for discussion, there'll be 4 days of potential discussion, and then nothing else for 6 months to a year. I really want to see that happen for pointless suggestions. Really, a lot. It's the moratorium I'm seeking.

If you can close discussions without any interest in the discussion thread, why can't you do the same in the bureaucracy thread? I don't see the benefit of extending the rigmarole and spreading it over two threads when it's so starved for interest.

Cindy - that would be great. I will still volunteer to help with the polling, if (it already being half done) my help will be useful. But obviously ad-hoc is not the way to go, which means my suggestion is currently not practical.

If you can close discussions without any interest in the discussion thread, why can't you do the same in the bureaucracy thread?

Then we need to state that explicitly that somehow (with as yet undecided criteria (another time period?)) things that don't get enough steam to make it to the discussion thread also have to be tabled.

What seems a useful time? And it should start counting from the moment it's suggested.

"Discussion and/or voting could be extended in the event of major holidays."

I think we should say this and BE SPECIFIC about holidays. Because I don't want to hear someone saying they celebrate National Pickle Week and need votes extended for that but I also want to make sure that Am Chau's and FayJay's Bank Holiday Mondays, The Nova Scotians' Canada Day and Angus and Plasmo's etc.'s whatever day (Convict Appreciation Day?) and Nilly's rather more strict holidays don't get passed over as UnAmerrurican.

What seems a useful time? And it should start counting from the moment it's suggested.

If we're talking just getting four seconders, I'd go with 24 hours. One business day if there are a lot of people who are absent on weekends, though again - for just collecting seconders - I don't think it's such a problem.

In terms of holidays - any holiday for which the national government of a nation with five or more Buffistas currently resident should count. True? Or not?

any holiday for which the national government of a nation with five or more Buffistas currently resident should count. True? Or not?

US, UK, Australia, Canada, Israel, Spain, Malta, Ireland just for starters. Any volunteers to track them?

edit: whoops. FIVE. I can read. But I don't think it's fair or practical to disenfranchise the Nillys and PaulJs in such a particular way. No, I have nothing constructive to add.

In terms of holidays - any holiday for which the national government of a nation with five or more Buffistas currently resident should count. True? Or not?

Seems reasonable to me. At the moment that'd be the US, Canada, the UK and Australia, right?