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'Objects In Space'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2003 10:17:14 am PST #3587 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Lately, I think it's swung much more toward the chitchat end of the spectrum,

How will more threads change that, though? Any transition's been smooth enough for me that I don't notice it, but natter's ebbed and flowed -- sometimes it's deep with body image issues or sport or politics, and sometimes it's a concerted effort to relieve Alibelle of her Vaughn delusions. An Alias thread or a TV thread or a movie thread or a sports thread or a film thread isn't going to change that, is it?


Cindy - Jan 27, 2003 10:20:01 am PST #3588 of 10001
Nobody

I don't know if the point is to change Natter, but to facilitate the other types of conversations.


P.M. Marc - Jan 27, 2003 10:23:37 am PST #3589 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I wondered this during the music discussions, because there seem to be a few fan fiction threads, etc., but since I don't visit them, I didn't bring it up.

FFRWE = Discussion only, no workshopping.

Bitchy Fic = active workshopping thread, Buffycentric.

PPO = not-so-much-active workshopping thread that once was hopping but has declined in recent months as the show has lost some fandom types. Also, our most active Smallville writers have gone dim.

I'd like to keep Bitchy Fic separate, but would be fine seeing PPO go polyfandom.


Jesse - Jan 27, 2003 10:25:57 am PST #3590 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'd like to keep Bitchy Fic separate, but would be fine seeing PPO go polyfandom.

Could that incorporate due South, too?

Please note, I'm not sure why I'm even concerned about having a lot of lightly-used threads, so if the people who participate like the status quo, and there's no real reason to change, don't bother.


P.M. Marc - Jan 27, 2003 10:27:40 am PST #3591 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Due South isn't workshopping, and is active enough. It's already pretty open season slashy.

Smallville has been more active lately. Back when Smallville was its own part of WX, we started Due South to keep Smallville talk on Smallville.


§ ita § - Jan 27, 2003 10:27:41 am PST #3592 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

facilitate the other types of conversations.

But for this you need a lot of spread, don't you? For every topic people have felt "damn, I wish this hadn't been diluted by ita talking about krav"? Where do you stop? That's exactly my proliferation issue.

Someone (say, like me) who wants to talk with a number of people about a number of things, but will not be able to handle the increased volume with proliferation gets relegated to the natteriest of natter.

I don't see boundaries ... that's my thing.


Jessica - Jan 27, 2003 10:32:49 am PST #3593 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

What kinds of conversations are people missing in Natter, exactly? And why aren't the people who miss the deep conversations starting them up again? If the ratio of chitchat:Real Conversation has gotten too high, it's because the people who want more Real Conversations are waiting for the chit-chatters to start them, IMO. I don't think thread spread is the answer.


Jesse - Jan 27, 2003 10:34:00 am PST #3594 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I also think that too many of the Real Topics on people's minds these days are too touchy and devisive to talk about much.


Theodosia - Jan 27, 2003 10:39:36 am PST #3595 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

t clutches Due South topic close to bosom because it is nice just the way it is


Susan W. - Jan 27, 2003 10:51:36 am PST #3596 of 10001
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

What kinds of conversations are people missing in Natter, exactly? And why aren't the people who miss the deep conversations starting them up again?

With me, I feel like I try to start/continue deep or just semi-serious conversations with longer posts, but it often doesn't work. I'm not sure thread proliferation is the answer either. I guess I'm just going through one of those inevitable "I feel invisible" phases. (They are inevitable, right? I'm not the only one who sometimes feels invisible?) And I don't mean that anywhere near as whiny as it sounds. I think it's just another case of board growing pains, change we can't control, etc.

I also think that too many of the Real Topics on people's minds these days are too touchy and devisive to talk about much.

And while I can kinda understand that, I still really hate it.