When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


Burrell - Jan 02, 2003 11:51:43 am PST #2143 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

But things like music or movies which are more like interests?

Would then drop off my radar.

ita is so me here. I would feel sorely indeed if we started up Music and Movies threads. Because first, I would read in post in them about as often as I read and post in Literary, which is piss near never, and secondly and FAR MORE importantly, then Natter would truly be content-free. What's the point? To natter about everything, except the shows we watch on tv, the books we read, the movies we see, and the music we listen to?

Now, as to meiskie/Michael. 1) you haven't been *banned,* you've been *suspended,* given time to "chill off". But instead you keep coming back, an action that shows either disregard or disinterest in learning the basic rules of etiquette that guide the interactions on this board. If you truly want to be part of the community, follow the rules of etiquette.


Fay - Jan 02, 2003 11:53:32 am PST #2144 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

once I did accuse someone of being hypocritical (which the person copped to being but said I should have phrased it more politely, i.e., use 100 words instead of ten to say the same thing, something I will never be very good at doing)

Jeez, I know I shouldn't rise to this. If this refers to me, I still see nothing hypocritical in distinguishing between the language and tone of a post which belittled and demeaned a 17 year old actress, describing her body in terms usually reserved for cattle, and anything I have posted here. I have no issues with swearing, and I'd have had no issues with a post saying "Dawn is a hottie". *

Still, as you cannot distinguish between the language and tone of your post and the general level of banter and innuendo here (which does not hinge upon belittling people) then clearly this wasn't the place for you. Good luck in your future endeavours online and elsewhere.

*My gut reaction, I'll grant you, was to think "My God, I must be at fault here." Because I do that. But upon reflection, I don't think I was hypocritical at all. And I don't think anyone else was either - if anyone else had made similar remarks I'd have been equally offended.


kat perez - Jan 02, 2003 11:59:19 am PST #2145 of 10001
"We have trust issues." Mylar

I don't usually post here, though I do keep up. Probably because after all this time I still don't consider myself a "real" Buffista, don't know if I ever will. And I feel totally comfortable acknowledging that there are some Buffistae who are more "real" than others, can't define 'em, but know 'em when I see 'em. I really just wanted to apologize because I was one of the people that posted about the whole m situation in Natter. I think I might have even brought it up there. I don't read the FF thread, but knew what was going on from reading here and I just wanted to show some support for how the situation was handled. I totally didn't mean to make anyone uncomfortable or talk behind people's backs. And I do love that this thread exists and that this communtiy cares so much about trying to do the right thing. You guys rock. So hard.


askye - Jan 02, 2003 12:04:03 pm PST #2146 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

Going back to Music--how much music is discussed in depth in Natter?

Also is there no book talk at all in Natter?


Rebecca Lizard - Jan 02, 2003 12:06:07 pm PST #2147 of 10001
You sip / say it's your crazy / straw say it's you're crazy / as you bicycle your soul / with beauty in your basket

I just want to reiterate, once:

Michael. Dude. However *at all* polite, or clever, or nice you may be now, we don't want to hear it. You were given the chance to come back in two months and try again. You flunked that chance by re-registering under mmmieskie. That violated the terms of yr Buffisthood contract; and it made us not love you. Goodbye.


Kat - Jan 02, 2003 12:07:52 pm PST #2148 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Also is there no book talk at all in Natter?

It comes up not that often. Which can be surprising. Literary on WX was manageable for me. Literary here is much higher volume.


Michael - Jan 02, 2003 12:08:41 pm PST #2149 of 10001
Gone and soon forgotten.

I used the word "breast". That's for cattle?

Later I mentioned "teats", which was in response to someone jumping down my throat for using the word "breasts".

And what I said was that it made me feel uncombfortable that Dawn was getting me hot and bothered. Not that I wanted to jump her bones and grind her down, but that it was making me feel really old to watch her grow up (and out) so quickly. You misread the post, and I didn't feel the need to take back what I said because someone misread it. I didn't fantasize about her, nor did I post anything vulgar about her. In fact, just the opposite. I said I was uncombfortable about it myself.

But I guess that's the deal. It matters not what I post, but how others react to it. That I can't control someone's reaction is apparently my fault in your mind. But the semantic content of "Dawn's a hottie" is no different than what I said. In fact, "Dawn's a hottie" is even a little more direct than I got, because there's not mention there of being a grown man feeling embarrassed because you feel Dawn is a hottie. You were just looking to jump down my throat, I imagine. Which if, of course, your perogative.

But all the fawning over James at 15? I cannot for the life me understand how that is ok to talk about your hots for him, while mentioning 17 year old Dawn is not ok.

Perhaps because for those females out there that got so mad at me, there's a double standard at work. Ok to talk about young guys, but not OK talk about young women?

Nah, of course you would not cop to that sort of hypocritical content. But I point it out all the same, because that's what it is. You can salivate over him all you want, but don't let the shoe get on the other foot, eh?


§ ita § - Jan 02, 2003 12:10:01 pm PST #2150 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Question: What is James at 15? What does it have to do with real people?


Steph L. - Jan 02, 2003 12:10:07 pm PST #2151 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Michael, we (the community here & you) have agreed to disagree.

You have been suspended, under any username you try to register.

Please leave. NOW.


Sophia Brooks - Jan 02, 2003 12:10:43 pm PST #2152 of 10001
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I have the same question as ita.