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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


John H - Dec 27, 2002 4:51:29 pm PST #1624 of 10001

Yeah, ita, are those the HTTP_REFERER addresses? Not the same as the REMOTE_IP or whatever?


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 4:51:59 pm PST #1625 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that's probably the list of what sites the posters were at when they linked to us, no?

Yup, that's it. If by "linked" you mean "clicked through".

And groups.google.com means USENET, effectively.

edit: Yup, referrals, hosts they were at when they came here ...


shrift - Dec 27, 2002 4:57:18 pm PST #1626 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I blame Shrift.

Hey! What did I do?

If the trolls are finding their way here because of me, then... then... I guess I'll delete all of my websites and go *poof* in a BNF snit of epic proportions!!!

t puts a gun to the BRQG's head

I'll Minear it, I swear I will!

Seriously, though, I can take some links down, but I think Variety has a wider readership than I do. I'm just sayin'.


Anne W. - Dec 27, 2002 4:59:50 pm PST #1627 of 10001
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

The trolling has been surprisingly light. Just the two (or two and a half), really. I'm hoping that it's nothing more than 2002 getting its last licks in before we take it out to the back forty to put it out of its misery.


Connie Neil - Dec 27, 2002 5:00:06 pm PST #1628 of 10001
brillig

eriously, though, I can take some links down, but I think Variety has a wider readership than I do. I'm just sayin'.

Doubt that.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 5:09:00 pm PST #1629 of 10001

More interesting would be the IP addresses of the machines used to make the posts. Some web servers log that.


Betsy HP - Dec 27, 2002 5:15:31 pm PST #1630 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Sorry, Shrift, I was teasing. I really shouldn't, not in these parlous times.


John H - Dec 27, 2002 5:21:58 pm PST #1631 of 10001

the IP addresses of the machines used to make the posts. Some web servers log that.

I think we have that info too, but ita doesn't have the time or access to do anything with it right now, that's all.

I think she was quoting referrals from a pre-munged set of stats provided by the hosting company.


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 5:32:20 pm PST #1632 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think we have that info too, but ita doesn't have the time or access to do anything with it right now, that's all.

Yup. I can open some of the log from the 24th onwards here, but not all. And the IP addresses are unresolved, so it's really not going to be statistically informative.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 5:42:46 pm PST #1633 of 10001

The question is, can we associate and IP address with the posting of a message? Because what we really want to know is if two messages with different user IDs are from the same IP address. We don't need to resolve the IPs, just compare them.

This might be a lot of work. Perhaps it's not worthwhile.

It might be useful, in the future, to log the IP address of the poster in the database along with the post. I wonder if that's possible.