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Bureaucracy 1: Like Kafka, Only Funnier  

A thread to discuss naming threads, board policy, new thread suggestions, and anything else that has to do with board administration and maintenance. Guaranteed to include lively debate and polls. Natter discouraged, but not deleted.

Current Stompy Feet: ita, Jon B, DXMachina, P.M. Marcontell, Liese S., amych


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 5:32:20 pm PST #1632 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think we have that info too, but ita doesn't have the time or access to do anything with it right now, that's all.

Yup. I can open some of the log from the 24th onwards here, but not all. And the IP addresses are unresolved, so it's really not going to be statistically informative.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 5:42:46 pm PST #1633 of 10001

The question is, can we associate and IP address with the posting of a message? Because what we really want to know is if two messages with different user IDs are from the same IP address. We don't need to resolve the IPs, just compare them.

This might be a lot of work. Perhaps it's not worthwhile.

It might be useful, in the future, to log the IP address of the poster in the database along with the post. I wonder if that's possible.


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 5:50:33 pm PST #1634 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It'll take aligning posting time, referrer, and URL. It'll be a bit of work.

As for saving the IP address with the post, it gives me a bit of a big brother quease. I don't actually want anyone to know where I'm posting from. Also, if two users have the same ISP, they can easily have the same IP, depending on how the software works. I know AOL used to make it look like all of their subscribers were from VA.


shrift - Dec 27, 2002 5:59:23 pm PST #1635 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Sorry, Shrift, I was teasing.

Oh, I knew that, Betsy. And I was joking, too.

Although, in retrospect, I realize I might not be very funny when I'm this drugged. I mean, I think looking at my face in a spoon is hysterical right now. "Look! It's shrift in a funhouse mirror!"

I really shouldn't, not in these parlous times.

When the time comes that we can't laugh at ourselves, that's when I think we'll really run into trouble.


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 6:01:27 pm PST #1636 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

When the time comes that we can't laugh at ourselves, that's when I think we'll really run into trouble.

But you can't laugh at me, just so's you're clear.

Absolutely not.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 6:09:26 pm PST #1637 of 10001

As for saving the IP address with the post, it gives me a bit of a big brother quease.

But you already know this from the logs. It would just make it easier if we need to put a stop to some abuse.


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 6:16:21 pm PST #1638 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I don't know it from the logs. That knowledge is contained therein, and I'm quite happy to leave it really difficult to find. Especially with the inconclusiveness of it all.

I mean, I can post from two completely different IPs from home -- different organizations and cities (although same state). Either of which someone else could be posting from too at the same time.

I'd just rather leave it very last-resorty, even though it means more work for me to find out.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 6:40:03 pm PST #1639 of 10001

Since my suggestion of logging IP addresses bothers you, I'll drop it.


§ ita § - Dec 27, 2002 6:41:39 pm PST #1640 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It bothers *me*, but I'm not the arbiter.

I vote against it, you for.

We need other voices.


Rob - Dec 27, 2002 6:45:45 pm PST #1641 of 10001

I just think if I pick apart all your arguments against, it will just irritate you. And I really don't care that much about it. So I'm changing my vote to no, making it unanimous.