It's the article I cut and pasted from above, so I was wondering what Plei's referring to.

Yeah, oops. I'm a crappy multitasker. Never mind. In fact, I'm on the phone right now, and I have no idea what I'm typing.

This is why I usually avoid reading interviews with writers and actors and other creators of my fiction! Too often I'm dismayed by them. But I stopped reading (for example) Dave Sim's work because it started to suck, not because he was a giant ass. As long as I like Moffat's work, I'll keep watching, regardless of what I might think of him personally. The work I've seen of his hasn't struck me as misogynistic. I've never seen Coupling; maybe I'd hate it. But I'd still like Sherlock. There are a lot of misogynistic writers out there, presenting women in way way worse light than Irene Adler. We're not getting rid of them anytime soon. I really don't see Moffat as much of a problem for feminism. Clearly some women find him too misogynistic to deal with, but I don't have to feel the same way.

I don't really care what Moffat thinks. Maybe he is a giant misogynistic ass. Maybe he really does think most women are needy, baby-craving, husband-hunting messes. (I can, honestly, see how a guy could end up thinking that. There are a lot of those women out there.) But all I care about is whether I like his writing; his opinions are Sue Vertue's problem, not mine.

What I'm surprised about is that of the six characters on Coupling, one was sane and adult, and it was a woman. There was a guy who could possibly achieve emotional adulthood, but it would definitely be because that one woman dragged him there. This is not the Moffat character, either. Moffat might dislike that kind of woman (articles make it sound so), but he wrote her well enough to fool me.

Opinions of the creator become important when I'm contributing to their wallet through direct revenue or ratings. I don't want to be responsible for the enrichment of people whose values I abhor, and I'm willing to "lose out" by not seeing/reading the material, or I'll "act out" by purloining it, but I do regard that kind of me caving and not upholding principles as often as I do see it as an act of rebellion.

I'm not sure I'd count Sally as sane and adult. Though maybe she became sane and adult after I stopped watching?

(I mean, honestly, Susan is the only one I'd classify as close to sane and adult, and even that's a stretch for me.)

I'm not sure I'd count Sally as sane and adult

Neither would I. She's waspish, mean, and vain. Susan is sensible, responsible, sex-positive, and generally got a handle on her neuroses, etc, though.

(Do you really think *I* would consider Sally sane or adult? I'm confused)

I was thrown because you said "not the Moffat character" for the man, but Steve *is* the Moffat character, and Susan is based on Sue.

(In which case, I think it's safe to say that he likes that kind of woman very much, and that kind of woman puts up with him.)

And for the threepeat, nope, I wouldn't normally think you'd consider Sally sane or adult, so I was wicked confused for a bit when I thought you were explicitly excluding Susan.