They cite Christopher Lee's portrayal.
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DebetEsse - Jan 06, 2012 9:47:58 am PST #9402 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.
Calli - Jan 06, 2012 9:58:26 am PST #9403 of 9843
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Calli, the showrunners have said that they consider all previous incarnations are part of their source material (c.f.--Mycroft), so you're not off-base there.
Wow. That's a lot of incarnations. Heck, Gaiman just wrote a Holmesian short story a couple of months ago and, as Amy mentioned, they're even putting out new novels. Still, more power to the showrunners.
I wonder--can anyone else think of a Victorian literary work that's been worked, reworked, and expanded upon the way Doyle's Holmes stories have? Maybe Dracula, but that had a folktale base going in that Holmes doesn't. (Maybe I should take this question to Natter.)
DavidS - Jan 06, 2012 10:02:19 am PST #9404 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Dracula definitely. Whatever folktale elements were minor compared to Stoker refining the core mythos.
Tarzan is a little later, but comparable.
P.M. Marc - Jan 06, 2012 10:03:50 am PST #9405 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Gatiss basically imprinted on The Private Life of Sherlock Holmes (the one with Christopher Lee as Mycroft) as a young fellow.
P.M. Marc - Jan 06, 2012 10:04:32 am PST #9406 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Frankenstein is pre-Victorian, but it's been worked and reworked in a similar way.
Atropa - Jan 06, 2012 10:17:07 am PST #9407 of 9843
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.
Plus, hell, you can be kind and still scheme. These are not mutually exclusive, Watson's lens aside.
Yes, and anyone who thinks otherwise is more than a bit naive.
amych - Jan 06, 2012 10:18:10 am PST #9408 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
A Christmas Carol.
§ ita § - Jan 06, 2012 10:22:12 am PST #9409 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Tarzan? Comparable? When's the last time someone explicitly touched the franchise in a mass market way?
DavidS - Jan 06, 2012 10:24:19 am PST #9410 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
When's the last time someone explicitly touched the franchise in a mass market way?
I don't know. Disney? But it's had many many iterations and was almost constantly in play in movies/tv/comic strips/comic books for 80 years.
Typo Boy - Jan 06, 2012 10:25:04 am PST #9411 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Holmes finds her clever and amusing, and admires that she defeated him (arguably with a head start, mind). No doubt there. Not seeing how this goes against my reading, which I've said has the truth somewhere in the grey zone of he said, she said.
Because you said that her dealing with terrorist in 21st century Sherlock gives the same emotional impact as the original story. I'd say not really the equivalent. By the end of the story in Doyle I don't think we have anything like the feeling we have for a demi-terrorist.
I would add that keeping taking the photo over jewels and referring to her ever afterword as 'The Woman' and dialing back on the misogyny shows a degree of respect that goes beyond amusement and admiration.