Gabriel: Are you trying to destroy this family? Simon: I didn't realize it would be so easy.

'Safe'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Fiona - Apr 25, 2010 11:12:37 pm PDT #8935 of 9843

Seska, re your whitefont:

yes, it would be extremely cool to see John Simm again. However due to subsequent events I can't guarantee that I won't be shouting, "Don't trust him, he's THE MASTER!" at the screen .


Fiona - Apr 30, 2010 9:33:45 pm PDT #8936 of 9843

Sapphire and Steel reference on Ashes to Ashes last night. Love it.

I was a bit worried when Ray started seeing stars and talking about astronauts though. I do hope they're not going to go where the US LoM did and put them all in hypersleep .

Nice episode, all in all. The Sam mystery deepens....


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 01, 2010 1:45:46 am PDT #8937 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

RE: Last night's Ashes to Ashes on the BBC. Anyone have any thoughts on what Gene might have said? I don't think it was just 'the truth' in relation to Sam. I think he knows where this universe, for want of a better term, has come from. Which might be related to Sam's death, too.

Fiona: Don't think the stars thing - which Ray and Shaz have both seen - is particularly literal. I think it might be what Ray said about being on the edge of the universe. Their world might be collapsing.


DebetEsse - May 03, 2010 12:43:06 pm PDT #8938 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

From a "mythology" perspective it would make sense if he did know what was going on. I don't think I want him to be running it, though. Maybe just been in a coma for ages or somesuch.

If Chaz had been in LoM, I could see (well enough to throw things at) a solution like the US one, but, as it is, it makes less sense. Also, see above re: throwing things.

Why couldn't anyone have looked at personnel files while in the now and given us an answer as to whether any of these people actually lived in our Universe? Seems like the first thing you do when you hear Sam's story. I know, dramatic tension, but, still...

It's interesting that they made the point about Gene changing because of both Sam and Alex. I wonder how, if at all, it feeds into the larger mythology.

3 more episodes, and still a lot to be done.


Fiona - May 03, 2010 11:56:38 pm PDT #8939 of 9843

DebetEsse, I don't imagine that anyone would have checked whether Gene etc. actually existed, because it would have been assumed that Sam was hallucinating. I'm a bit surprised that Sam didn't appear to try and look them up, though. Maybe he didn't care. Alex's comments about that life seeming more real than her actual life probably come into play .

Yes, I'm actually quite looking forward to the last three eps.


DebetEsse - May 04, 2010 7:12:16 am PDT #8940 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I like to think that, given the connections to actual events (that Sam or Alex witnessed as a child), someone would have at least run Gene's name through the police databases. Both of them had time in the "real world" after their time in Gene-land, as well.


Fiona - May 08, 2010 6:31:25 am PDT #8941 of 9843

AtoA: Farewell then, Viv, we hardly knew you.

I do like the way they've "brought back" Sam. The actor even has some of John Simm's edginess .


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - May 08, 2010 11:53:21 am PDT #8942 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Fiona: You think he really is Sam, then? I wasn't sure. But then, I expect that's the point!


Fiona - May 08, 2010 9:01:43 pm PDT #8943 of 9843

I have no idea whether or not he "IS" Sam; I agree the point is that we're supposed to be as unsure as Alex. I was just saying that I like the way the actor resembles John Simm physically a little bit, it makes it all work better .


Typo Boy - May 11, 2010 7:51:25 am PDT #8944 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

From here in the U.S. the UK election is somewhat confusing. Are the Liberal Democrats at least going to get a referendum on PR out of a Tory-Libdem coalition? If so will the Tories be the one to phrase the question? Also, is the choice of allying with Tories rather than Labor really being made essentially out of personal spite?