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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 09, 2009 8:56:30 am PDT #8853 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Someone tell me they've seen the Ashes to Ashes season two finale and is up for discussing it, before I lose my mind entirely...

Spoiler for such: Genius, or just random, slightly desperate way of extending the story? Does this mean something new for our understanding of the universe that Sam, and then later Alex, created? Or is better not to think about it too much? Infinite regress makes me head-spinny.


Fiona - Jun 09, 2009 9:13:26 am PDT #8854 of 9843

I am, I am!

Re your question: um, I'm not sure yet, not helped by the fact that I was interrupted by a small sleepy child (which was possibly responding to the In the Night Garden music, come to think of it) right at the climax, and haven't yet had a chance to rewatch.

I don't think that it means anything new, though; I think she's still stuck in 1982 - she said as much herself - and this is one of those nice, dreamlike wish-fulfillment hallucinations she has from time to time .

Philip Glenister has stated publicly that AtoA Series 3 will be Gene Hunt's very last outing, so I think - hope - we can expect everything to be wrapped up nicely about this time next year .


Seska (the Watcher-in-Training) - Jun 09, 2009 9:47:10 am PDT #8855 of 9843
"We're all stories, in the end. Just make it a good one, eh?"

Fiona, yay - Genetalk!

[Spoilers for AtoA s2 finale] You said "I think she's still stuck in 1982 - she said as much herself". I may need to rewatch myself, but I heard her say "I'm in a coma in 1982?", which I didn't interpret as necessarily meaning she *wasn't* also waking up in 2009. I may be overthinking this - I was going into the realms of different aspects of consciousness being in different places/times, but that could be too complex for AtoA. A coma within a coma, though - generally, it's a plotline worthy of Shakespeare (along with mistaken identities between twins and suchlike).


DebetEsse - Jun 12, 2009 6:30:27 pm PDT #8856 of 9843
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I heard what Seska heard, and thought much of what she thought. I mean, we've had verification of the "reality" of the Hunt timeline, more or less, with the dead body from next door. I'm not sold on whether Alex's 2000-whatever that she's in at the moment is real...of course, that would totally undermine the reality of 1982, if it weren't, dream within a dream and all that.

I, personally, like the idea that they're both real, in meaningful ways. The question of choosing between realities is a more compelling one if neither is totally fictitious. But it has to be an alternate timeline, doesn't it? I really wish they'd said outright that there never was such a person as Gene Hunt at the beginning of A2A, just for clarity's sake. Although, maybe they're holding that to the end, have him show up as his 72-year-old self. According to Philip Glenister, they're going to deal with who he really is in the final series, so here's hoping he's not the devil.


msbelle - Jul 01, 2009 2:49:42 am PDT #8857 of 9843
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Happy Canada Day.


Fay - Jul 14, 2009 9:28:46 pm PDT #8858 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

OMG OMG OMG Congratulations Nilly!

::flails::

Happy Soon-To-Be Wedding!


Jars - Jul 19, 2009 9:52:34 am PDT #8859 of 9843

Eeeeeeeeeeeep!

Nilly! Congratulations! From a very-behind-the-times-Jars...


esse - Jul 19, 2009 12:07:49 pm PDT #8860 of 9843
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

Hi Jars! How are you doing?? Are you still thinking about moving to the states?


Jars - Jul 19, 2009 12:11:06 pm PDT #8861 of 9843

Hey SA!

It's all a bit up in the air at the moment. I've actually got an interview for a job in London on Thursday, so we'll see how that works out. The plan is definitely to move somewhere, still. The work situation in Ireland is particularly blergh.

How're you? You're in Portland now, right?

Editod to add - happy birthday!


esse - Jul 19, 2009 3:08:28 pm PDT #8862 of 9843
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

I am! Successfully living and all that stuff. Thanks for the birthday wishes. :) I'll be crossing my fingers for you!

What's the Husband doing?