Lorne: Once the word spreads you beat up an innocent old man, well, the truly terrible will think twice before going toe-to-toe with our Avenging Angel. Spike: Yes. The geriatric community will be soiling their nappies when they hear you're on the case. Bravo.

'The Cautionary Tale of Numero Cinco'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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meara - May 14, 2009 4:17:28 pm PDT #8825 of 9843

Sorry, no Eurovision posting in Natter...while I occasionally see awesome costumes noted on "Go Fug Yourself" or elsewhere on the internet, and clips on YouTube linked places, we don't usually get to watch the whole thing, here in the US, much as it looks like awesome fun.


§ ita § - May 14, 2009 4:17:36 pm PDT #8826 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He's really charming, and the show has one of my favourite father/daughter TV relationships in it.


evil jimi - May 14, 2009 4:25:38 pm PDT #8827 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

He's really charming, and the show has one of my favourite father/daughter TV relationships in it.

Yeah, Nathan really owns the character of "Rick Castle". Moonlit and I were discussing it, and we can't think of another actor who could play that character as effectively. Nathan just has a cheeky charm about him. I totally agree about the father/daughter relationship. The mother is good value as well.

Shir: sorry but--to quote from Castle--I'd rather have honey poured on my eyeballs and one hundred fire ants dropped on my head, than watch Eurovision.


§ ita § - May 14, 2009 4:29:54 pm PDT #8828 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I was saying in Procedurals that it was my favourite father/daughter relationship, but people reminded me of Jack and Zoe in Eureka and the one in Lie To Me (have you gotten that yet, with Tim Roth?). Lie To Me has a realistic relationship that's good, but it's nowhere near as cute as either of the others.


evil jimi - May 14, 2009 4:36:24 pm PDT #8829 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

The stations over here have finally learnt their lesson about waiting too long to screen popular US shows. Hence getting Castle so quickly. We are getting Lie To Me but they're falling down on Eureka. Again I agree that those two depict good f/d relationships but they're not as good as Rick and Alexis.

eta: though it should be noted that the stations still haven't learnt their lesson about fucking up the shows by going to commercials too early. A character could be mid-sentence and they suddenly cut to a commercial break.


§ ita § - May 14, 2009 5:22:12 pm PDT #8830 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they're falling down on Eureka

Well, they're falling down on Eureka here too. We haven't seen anything since last September, and the break after this next mini-season looks to be epic, since shooting isn't scheduled to resume until next MARCH. Not sure what the thinking is there.

the stations still haven't learnt their lesson about fucking up the shows by going to commercials too early

Do they air more ads more often? It's glaring how BBC America, for instance, chops into a show with no ads to do their duty, and somewhat less so with syndicated shows on other stations (which I don't understand, since there are ad breaks in the shows already--why not just run more in the allocated spaces?).


Beverly - May 14, 2009 5:34:27 pm PDT #8831 of 9843
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I do want to get Jordan and Castle's daughter together and see what they'd come up with.

I love Susan Sullivan. She's so good, you don't notice how perfect she is. She was wonderful as Greg's mom on Dharma and Greg, she's been fabulous in every guest spot I've seen her in. And she was wonderful as Bruce Banner's love interest in The Hulk, years ago. She, Fillion, and the daughter actor really do have a great family dynamic.


Shir - May 15, 2009 2:57:56 am PDT #8832 of 9843
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

Shir: sorry but--to quote from Castle--I'd rather have honey poured on my eyeballs and one hundred fire ants dropped on my head, than watch Eurovision.

You really do have to learn to appreciate true trash.

So, the Eurovision. Usually, I don't watch. But last night, I was bored, and there was nothing to see on tv. Or so I thought. The choreography! The costumes! The really awful sounds! Boy, for some, I didn't even know WHERE to begin.

Remember the choreographer from Bring It On? Greece, apparently, did. [link] And then came Serbia [link] and it was disturbing. Only then, came Ukraine. Dear God. [link] Norway had it's own problems, but it was a nice break for my wide-open-with-horror-eyes [link] And then, of course, Moldova. What can I say? I love learning about foreign cultures. Every foreign culture, apparently, firmly believes in very short skirts. [link]

But nothing was as scary and disturbing as The Netherlands. [link]

Now, with better note, I have to praise Ireland: [link] and my favorite was Cyprus: [link]


Frankenbuddha - May 15, 2009 3:02:22 am PDT #8833 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

A character could be mid-sentence and they suddenly cut to a commercial break.

You have howler monkeys running your networks too? Guess I shouldn't be surprised.

She, Fillion, and the daughter actor really do have a great family dynamic.

I totally agree. The mother adds an element that isn't present in Eureka or Lie to Me. The character could have so easily been an annoyance, but they've balanced it just right. Alexis is definitely the most level-headed of the three, but not to an obnoxious degree, and sometimes she's just a teenager rather than the family anchor.


flea - May 15, 2009 3:25:31 am PDT #8834 of 9843
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Oh, Shir. Thank you. I think Ukraine did it for me, because of my "what is that, a tail? Oh my god, he's carrying a woman upside down on his back!" Moldova, too. I am sure that is a fine traditional song when not being danced to in a neon-yellow micro-mini.