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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Typo Boy - Dec 27, 2008 2:26:33 pm PST #8703 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Yeah my thought too. The cruise line is legit, but they are contracting the position to a British company who actually pays him. Also, they have internet on board, but they restrict it strictly to professional use, no personal use allowed. They were emphatic that this is enforced, and that not even personal emails are allowed. I'm going to go with even more suspicious.


Hil R. - Dec 27, 2008 3:04:14 pm PST #8704 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The bits that I've heard about cruise hiring has seemed dodgy to me. I know someone who was fired in the middle of a cruise, and left on St. Thomas, with just her last paycheck, no means of getting home. (At least it was a US island and she's a US citizen, so there weren't immigration issues in addition left-in-the-Caribbean issues.)


Fred Pete - Dec 29, 2008 6:51:42 am PST #8705 of 9843
Ann, that's a ferret.

By coincidence, we've had dealings with ship's doctors on two of our three cruises. (Once, we both caught a respiratory bug went around the ship. The other time, Hubs had recurrence of old problem, irritating but not major.) Bills were charged to the room, so no checks changed hands.

So I assume the cruise line or the British company pays the doctor by paper check? Otherwise, I'm not sure how the issue would come up. At any rate, it seems questionable to me in this day and age -- electronic fund transfers would be so much easier.

What makes the practice even more questionable is that, because of work schedules, many crew members can't leave the ship when it's in port. A ship's doctor might be able to, depending on office hours. But a cabin steward or a waiter, much more difficult. (At least, that's how things are on the line we sail on -- but we sail on a line that has a reputation for good treatment of its crew, compared to other lines!)

As to the best way to deposit the checks, your friend should probably contact the bank the checks would be deposited into. A large bank probably has procedures for such things -- and may even have operations in some ports where your friend could deposit the check in person.


Typo Boy - Dec 29, 2008 7:54:52 am PST #8706 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

This Steiner Maritime LTD a subsidiar of Steiner Leisure Industries. They are one of the big subcontracters for cruise ships. Apparently their argument for paper checks is that they are paying in so many currencies. I'm pretty sure it is a way of getting float, making sure that it takes employees weeks and months to deposit their checks. They flat out told him than many employees just keep their checks in their safe(everyone employee has a personal safe) until they get a chance to deposit them.

There is no chance of his not taking it. He is fairly desperate for work.

And to clarify, he is not paid by patients. He is paid a salary by contractor. They may bill patients if medical care is not included in price of the ticket.


dcp - Dec 29, 2008 5:37:20 pm PST #8707 of 9843
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Makes me suspect Steiner is not paying FICA. Are they paying him as a contractor? If so, he may be taking a pretty big tax hit.


evil jimi - Dec 31, 2008 5:17:19 pm PST #8708 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Happy New Year everyone


dcp - Jan 27, 2009 4:21:31 am PST #8709 of 9843
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

A belated Happy Australia Day! to everyone.


Hil R. - Jan 31, 2009 3:36:57 pm PST #8710 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

A somewhat random question. I was just reading an article about how the Italian city of Lucca has just passed a law that any new restaurants within the city limits must serve only Italian food. One of the people behind the law, when answering a question about whether it was racist, said something like, "This is just as much against McDonald's as it is against kebab houses."

Which got me thinking about McDonald's, and how, when I was in Italy a few years ago, it seemed like there were a lot more of them, and in much more upscale neighborhoods, than I'm used to seeing in the US. I was complaining then that America seems to only export the crap parts of our culture -- that there's plenty of really great American food, but it seemed like the only kind available in Italy was McDonald's. So, my question for unAmericans is, what do you think of when you think of "American food"?


Fay - Jan 31, 2009 5:44:52 pm PST #8711 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

McDonalds. KFC. Burger King. Pizza. Junk food, basically.

That's the first thing, by a long way, simply because it's the US that has done that whole fast food franchise thing and exported it to the entire planet. It is all-pervasive.

I know that's not what all US cuisine is, but in much the same way that I'd associate curry with India or pasta with Italy I'd associate deep fried processed junk food in a prefabricated container with America.

If I was supposed to think of something nicer, but also typically American, I guess Tex-Mex would come to mind, and salad bars, and gourmet icecream bars with a zillion different flavours.

(Keep in mind that my nation is infamous for having crap food, and boiling everything to death. Which isn't fair these days, I think, if it ever was, but that's our reputation.)


§ ita § - Jan 31, 2009 5:47:42 pm PST #8712 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What'd occur to me would be burgers, hot dogs, pizza, fried chicken, barbeque-- not necessarily from a fast food place.