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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Volans - Feb 11, 2007 7:08:12 pm PST #8441 of 9843
move out and draw fire

It doesn't serve anyone to have a (potential) leader of arguably the most powerful nation in the world, who knows so little about the rest of the world, and in particular one of its fucking allies

Why change what's been working so well for the last 7 years?


evil jimi - Feb 12, 2007 12:16:20 am PST #8442 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

IIRC, that 20,000 figure refers to the increase in troop numbers that Bush is pushing for, sort of a "if Howard thinks there should be another 20,000 troops in Iraq, he can send his own troops and see how it plays with his electorate". I wasn't entirely impressed with Obama's comment either, but it was pretty clearly for local consumption.

That's how moonlit reads Obama's comment too. It's more than likely the truth but in my irascible mind, it still smacks of a foot-in-mouth reaction.

FTR: The figure for the increase of US personnel is 21,500. Obama's quote states the US has, "...close to 140,000 troops in Iraq, and my understanding is Mr Howard has deployed 1400...". A note to Mr Obama and his staff: the US has a population of approximately 301,155,237, which is rising by 1 roughly every 12 seconds [link] . Australia has a population of approximately 20,754,774 [link] , which is rising by 1 roughly every 2 minutes. Doesn't take a mathematician to determine who has the greater commitment in Iraq.


Fiona - Feb 12, 2007 1:20:14 am PST #8443 of 9843

Does anyone know the keyboard shortcut to make the pound sign?

SA, it's ALT-0163.


billytea - Feb 12, 2007 2:26:30 am PST #8444 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

FTR: The figure for the increase of US personnel is 21,500. Obama's quote states the US has, "...close to 140,000 troops in Iraq, and my understanding is Mr Howard has deployed 1400...". A note to Mr Obama and his staff: the US has a population of approximately 301,155,237, which is rising by 1 roughly every 12 seconds [link] . Australia has a population of approximately 20,754,774 [link] , which is rising by 1 roughly every 2 minutes. Doesn't take a mathematician to determine who has the greater commitment in Iraq.

This is true, and the more so since it was the decision of the American President to initiate the war and subsequent occupation. On a per capita basis, America's commitment of troops is something like six times that of Australia.


Theodosia - Feb 12, 2007 2:30:46 am PST #8445 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Hey, at least Obama can find Australia on a map....


billytea - Feb 12, 2007 2:34:29 am PST #8446 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Hey, at least Obama can find Australia on a map....

Hmm. To play fair, I suppose I should practise finding Obama on a map.


esse - Feb 12, 2007 3:12:00 am PST #8447 of 9843
S to the A -- using they/them pronouns!

£ Hey, it worked that time! Thanks, Fiona.


evil jimi - Feb 12, 2007 1:31:40 pm PST #8448 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

On a per capita basis, America's commitment of troops is something like six times that of Australia.

Maths has never been my strong point but I do believe I'm getting stupider as I get older.


Fay - Feb 13, 2007 12:17:45 am PST #8449 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Holy crap. This is just boggling my mind.

(And I'm trying to find the SMG photo that her image reminds me of - I'm thinking it's a season 2 or possibly 3 photoshoot, although it could be season 1...)


Volans - Feb 13, 2007 6:49:39 am PST #8450 of 9843
move out and draw fire

Fay, I have to say I wouldn't want her teaching my kids. And it's not because she writes vampire erotica (that, in fact, is a plus)...

The site reads: "Like all good author's she drew on her own knowledge and passions to write it."

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