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Fiona - Sep 18, 2004 1:19:17 am PDT #7164 of 9843

Gus, for the love of God, do not watch Angel dubbed into German. Please.

I've complained about it before. Their worst sin is to give Gunn a really high-pitched voice, which is just wrong, wrong, WRONG.

Buffy is almost as bad, but the main problem here is that many of the jokes are just untranslatable. A lot gets lost, and yet there are still many German Buffy fans, because it's so good to begin with, you can afford to lose about 20% of the jokes and it's still 38% better than anything else on TV.

Frankenbuddha - Sep 20, 2004 9:01:36 am PDT #7165 of 9843
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I've complained about it before. Their worst sin is to give Gunn a really high-pitched voice, which is just wrong, wrong, WRONG.

Tries to picture this. Falls over laughing. Chokes on an ice cube.

Fiona - Sep 20, 2004 10:49:26 pm PDT #7166 of 9843

I'm not really sure where to put this... but the new radio series of The Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy starts on Radio 4 tonight, 20 years after the last one ended. They're doing the remaining books starting with "Life, the Universe, and Everything", and all of the original cast (except those who have died in the meantime) are back on board - plus Douglas Adams himself as Agrajag. Download the trailers and listen to the episodes here:

[link]

(You can either listen to the episode "live" online, or on demand after Thursday night).

Gus - Sep 23, 2004 3:50:14 pm PDT #7167 of 9843
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Just watched my first Angel dubbed in German.

So wrong.

Did I listen to Fiona? No.

I should have. Note to self: Listen to Fiona.

sumi - Sep 23, 2004 4:33:47 pm PDT #7168 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

Wow!

I will mark that -- I LOVED Hitchhiker on radio.

Sue - Sep 23, 2004 4:41:35 pm PDT #7169 of 9843
hip deep in pie

Crap! Meant to listen....ooooh I can listen tomorrow at work!!!

Jon B. - Sep 23, 2004 5:26:05 pm PDT #7170 of 9843
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

all of the original cast (except those who have died in the meantime) are back on board - plus Douglas Adams himself as Agrajag.

They found another vase of Osaris?

§ ita § - Sep 23, 2004 5:29:59 pm PDT #7171 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They found another vase of Osaris?

They probably borrowed one from Tupac's posse.

sumi - Sep 23, 2004 5:54:54 pm PDT #7172 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, that Willow -- always grandstanding. I bet you can find 10 Vases of Osiris on Ebay on any day of the week.

Fiona - Sep 23, 2004 10:15:27 pm PDT #7173 of 9843

Heee.

I think they took his voice from one of the audiobooks or something. Before his death, while they were already working on the new series, he absolutely insisted that he had to play Agrajag. Over-identify, much?

I thought it was really well done, and actually got goosebumps when it started and the announcer came on. The same announcer, sounding pretty much unchanged over 25 years.

The one fundamental difference from the first two radio series, though, is that you know the jokes already. Or at least, you do if you've read the books as often as I have. But the execution was still good to hear.

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