Giles, if you would like to get by in American society, then you are going to have to follow our traditions. You're the patriarch. You have to host the festivities, or it's all meaningless.

Buffy ,'Sleeper'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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DavidS - Feb 20, 2004 6:17:02 am PST #6819 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Happy belated birthday to Benno! Two is a big boy age.


evil jimi - Feb 22, 2004 1:52:13 am PST #6820 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

*YAY* The heatwave has finally broken. /me does the dance of not-frying-in-his-own-flop-sweat-any-longer

Thank christie-poo I didn't get any valentines on Valentines Day. 44.3C is way too fucking hot to be anything remotely romantic.

Aussies--we're captioning a series called "Kath & Kim." It was a hit there, yes? A very unusual mixture of broad sketch comedy and very spot-on human moments.

The humour is definitely a lot broader than The Office but the cringe factor is on par. Funny as hell but hard to watch. t /ex-Elizabeth lad

Evil jimi, bugger, me too, and insent to your profile address.

Received and in the midst of replying.

I caught the second episode and really enjoyed it and am definitely looking forward to the rest of the season.

Oh and Angel 4 is released March 10, with Buffy 7 a month later. *YAY again*


moonlit - Feb 22, 2004 2:29:56 am PST #6821 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell

44.3! OK you win, the hottest we got was 42.? on a couple of days and it broke yesterday here.

Jimi, backsent with a new improved offer.


evil jimi - Feb 22, 2004 3:28:47 am PST #6822 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

4.3! OK you win, the hottest we got was 42.? on a couple of days and it broke yesterday here.

Oh yeah! It was the hottest February day on record. The Sunday was only supposed to be 35 but it got up to 42.6...it was freaking 35 in my flat on the Saturday. Ugh!

t Back on Topic Gunn's new hair growth definitely looks weird. I vote for the razor again.

I have to admit, i was a bit suss about the new direction the show was going to take after last season's finale but after watching the second episode, i have to admit that it looks like lot of fun and action will be had by all.


Theodosia - Feb 23, 2004 3:29:12 am PST #6823 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

44.3 C = 112 F, in case any USanians are wondering. (39 C = 102 F). Hopefully at least this is a dry heat....


§ ita § - Feb 23, 2004 5:15:29 pm PST #6824 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Question probably best suited for UnAmericans: Do you know if the guy that wrote "Wire In The Blood" created the term? Does it have a clear meaning?


Emlah - Feb 23, 2004 5:44:41 pm PST #6825 of 9843
To every idea a shelf...

I believe Val McDermid is a woman. I haven't read any of her books, but when I looked for info on them a while ago after watching the TV series I remember reading somewhere that the phrase "wire in the blood" comes from a T.S. Eliot poem. I don't know the context, though. Personally, the phrase makes me think of buzzing, restless energy. Or maybe the unnatural hidden in the natural.


§ ita § - Feb 23, 2004 6:38:51 pm PST #6826 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Val indeed is a woman, I've now learnt. I hit her website, and the question's asked there by fans too, but no conclusive answer is given, and none at all by authority.


moonlit - Feb 23, 2004 11:31:55 pm PST #6827 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell

from zap2it

In "Wire" (which takes its name from a line in a T.S. Eliot poem), Green plays Dr. Tony Hill, a university lecturer and clinical psychologist specializing in serial killers.

From T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets,

Burnt Norton (the first quartet)
II
Garlic and sapphires in the mud
Clot the bedded axle-tree.
The trilling wire in the blood
Sings below inveterate scars
Appeasing long forgotten wars.
The dance along the artery
The circulation of the lymph
Are figured in the drift of stars
Ascend to summer in the tree
We move above the moving tree
In light upon the figured leaf
And hear upon the sodden floor
Below, the boarhound and the boar
Pursue their pattern as before
But reconciled among the stars.

excerpt from TS Eliot accurate online texts

Another one of her books is called The Mermaids Singing which is from The Lovesong of J Alfred Prufrock , another poem by T S Eliot

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me.
I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

There is also McDermid's The Last Temptation which comes from TS Eliot's The Murder In The Cathedral

The last temptation is the greatest treason;
To do the right thing for the wrong reason.


Jim - Feb 24, 2004 12:40:54 am PST #6828 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Fuck, Eliot's good. Leaving aside the meaning, he's just the best poet of the 20th century in terms of sensous sound.