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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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§ ita § - Feb 23, 2004 6:38:51 pm PST #6826 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Val indeed is a woman, I've now learnt. I hit her website, and the question's asked there by fans too, but no conclusive answer is given, and none at all by authority.


moonlit - Feb 23, 2004 11:31:55 pm PST #6827 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell

from zap2it

In "Wire" (which takes its name from a line in a T.S. Eliot poem), Green plays Dr. Tony Hill, a university lecturer and clinical psychologist specializing in serial killers.

From T.S. Eliot's Four Quartets,

Burnt Norton (the first quartet)
II
Garlic and sapphires in the mud
Clot the bedded axle-tree.
The trilling wire in the blood
Sings below inveterate scars
Appeasing long forgotten wars.
The dance along the artery
The circulation of the lymph
Are figured in the drift of stars
Ascend to summer in the tree
We move above the moving tree
In light upon the figured leaf
And hear upon the sodden floor
Below, the boarhound and the boar
Pursue their pattern as before
But reconciled among the stars.

excerpt from TS Eliot accurate online texts

Another one of her books is called The Mermaids Singing which is from The Lovesong of J Alfred Prufrock , another poem by T S Eliot

Shall I part my hair behind? Do I dare to eat a peach?
I shall wear white flannel trousers, and walk upon the beach.
I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me.
I have seen them riding seaward on the waves
Combing the white hair of the waves blown back
When the wind blows the water white and black.
We have lingered in the chambers of the sea
By sea-girls wreathed with seaweed red and brown
Till human voices wake us, and we drown.

There is also McDermid's The Last Temptation which comes from TS Eliot's The Murder In The Cathedral

The last temptation is the greatest treason;
To do the right thing for the wrong reason.


Jim - Feb 24, 2004 12:40:54 am PST #6828 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Fuck, Eliot's good. Leaving aside the meaning, he's just the best poet of the 20th century in terms of sensous sound.


§ ita § - Feb 24, 2004 4:20:40 am PST #6829 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Can we not leave aside the meaning? Because I still don't get it. I think I basically get the other two poems, though.


Steph L. - Feb 24, 2004 4:55:39 am PST #6830 of 9843
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each.
I do not think that they will sing to me.

I've always found these lines almost unbearably sad.


Sue - Feb 24, 2004 5:12:04 am PST #6831 of 9843
hip deep in pie

I once tried to force my friend to dress up for halloween by rolling up his pant legs and shoving a can of peaches in his hand and instructing him to say "Do I dare? Do I dare?" It was his own frinkin' party and he was the only one not dressed up.


Steph L. - Feb 24, 2004 5:24:40 am PST #6832 of 9843
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I once tried to force my friend to dress up for halloween by rolling up his pant legs and shoving a can of peaches in his hand and instructing him to say "Do I dare? Do I dare?"

BWAH! I love it.


Nutty - Feb 24, 2004 5:50:39 am PST #6833 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

My mother used to have a cartoon from the New Yorker on her door. It was a pair of mermaids sitting on a rock by the shore, looking at a lump of a man who was walking on the beach. Caption: "I'm not singing to THAT guy."

I think I liked T. S. Eliot a lot better when I didn't know he was a weirdo in real life.


Sue - Feb 24, 2004 5:51:39 am PST #6834 of 9843
hip deep in pie

BWAH! I love it.

I thought it was pretty inspired, but he was a big party pooper.


Steph L. - Feb 24, 2004 6:03:12 am PST #6835 of 9843
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Caption: "I'm not singing to THAT guy."

::snerk::