Seinfeld never really engaged me -- maybe because I know somebody who is as close to a real-life George as you can get, and about as annoying as that implies.
Shh! I kinda wanna hear me talking right now!
Glory ,'The Killer In Me'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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Theodosia - Aug 22, 2003 2:29:54 pm PDT #6390 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"
erikaj - Aug 22, 2003 2:38:16 pm PDT #6391 of 9843
Always Anti-fascist!
One of my favorite quotes to use is "You don't just need a psychiatrist. You need a team, from a clinic in Vienna or someplace, just to study you. Doctors working around the clock." Or something like that.
Cindy - Aug 22, 2003 3:43:09 pm PDT #6392 of 9843
Nobody
*scraps plans to turn Un-American into the de facto Seinfeld thread*
Sean K - Aug 22, 2003 3:49:35 pm PDT #6393 of 9843
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Cindy, when will you give up your multiple nefarious plans to recarve UnAm in your own image?
Noumenon - Aug 22, 2003 4:00:04 pm PDT #6394 of 9843
No other candidate is asking the hard questions, like "Did geophysicists assassinate Jim Henson?" or "Why is there hydrogen in America's water supply?" --defective yeti
I don't think you should be criticizing Cindy here in the de facto Cindy thread. ( That was her secret plan, all along!:)
edited to add smiley.
Trudy Booth - Aug 22, 2003 6:21:06 pm PDT #6395 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I also hated it. I thought they were all mean, mean people,
This is what made the finale so freakin' great.
I, too, however, was really snapped out of it by the whole Susan arc.
§ ita § - Aug 22, 2003 6:29:17 pm PDT #6396 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
By the Susan arc I was very "see! Horrible people. Why don't they suffer more? Why don't I suffer less?" and then I realised I'd been watching it and not enjoying it.
Curse my need to have material for an opinion.
Angus G - Aug 22, 2003 9:21:35 pm PDT #6397 of 9843
Roguish Laird
You are all mad! Seinfeld was brilliant from beginning to end. The sheer virtuousity of the plotting alone, the way all the disparate plot strands of each episode would come together in the final scene, puts it right at the top of the heap for me. Also, the point isn't just that the characters are unpleasant, it's that at some level they know they're unpleasant, but they persistently and hilariously undermine their own and each other's efforts to be better.
(Oh, and I can state with some certainty that Allan was joking.)
Emlah - Aug 22, 2003 9:43:01 pm PDT #6398 of 9843
To every idea a shelf...
I'm in the 'hate it' camp for all the reasons people have already put forward: unengaging, irritating etc. It makes me cringe and seeth rather than laugh.
Leigh - Aug 22, 2003 10:57:12 pm PDT #6399 of 9843
Nobody
I don't think I've ever been able to sit through an entire episode of Seinfeld (I worried that all the cringing I was doing was going to give me premature wrinkles), but objectively I appreciate it. Well, sort of--the repetition of the dumb sitcom formula of having the character do something stupid/horrible and then spend the rest of the episode attempting to cover it up from their girlfriend/boss/whoever was a bit tedious.