What you did to me was unbelievable, Connor. But then I got stuck in a hell dimension by my girlfriend one time for a hundred years, so three months under the ocean actually gave me perspective. Kind of a M.C. Escher perspective, but I did get time to think.

Angel ,'Conviction (1)'


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Jim - Aug 12, 2003 5:00:42 am PDT #6265 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

I had thought of two directions that could have been possible fitting endings to the series. A third one hadn't occurred to me. It occurred to Joss. That's pretty much my definition of good storytelling.

Yes, that sums up my feelings.


Jim - Aug 12, 2003 5:01:13 am PDT #6266 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Mine were: Everyone dies or the Hellmouth gets shut.


Angus G - Aug 12, 2003 5:08:14 am PDT #6267 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Well I was just thinking about what happens to Buffy but, yeah, on similar lines: either she dies (again!) or she somehow manages to "retire" from slaying and pass on her powers. I really do have to hand it to Joss for finding a third solution that seemed obvious in retrospect. And I don't know why I'm still being coy about it! Just making sure...Nilly, you're spoiled, right?


Nilly - Aug 12, 2003 5:13:17 am PDT #6268 of 9843
Swouncing

Just making sure...Nilly, you're spoiled, right?

Yes, don't worry! I'm my own special kind of spoiled.

I only read the episodes descriptions when the episodes air in the USA. It's a habit I started with when they stopped showing BtvS here and there was no chance to ever watching AtS, so I figured that reading on the internet is my only way in forever to know what's happening with some of my favorite fictional characters. Then, when I lucked out enough to be found by a tape fairy, I was addicted too used to do the readings, and didn't stop.


evil jimi - Aug 12, 2003 7:04:26 am PDT #6269 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Damn! What a fucking brilliant way to end the series! Now I can't wait for the DVDs, so we can see what we missed b/c channel 7 are greedy scumbags who cut the show to shit so they could fit more commercials in to the hour.


evil jimi - Aug 12, 2003 7:09:15 am PDT #6270 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

I haven't looked but is there any thought/conjecture as to what will happen in the AtS universe, re the awakening of the power in all the girls? Will it be incorporated now that BtVS is no more, or will it be ignored?

I'm hoping it won't be ignored b/c it could prove interesting in light of the direction Angel has taken but I'm guessing it won't be mentioned.


Betsy HP - Aug 12, 2003 7:26:57 am PDT #6271 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

I think Slayers have always been ignored in Angel; I'd expect that to continue.


evil jimi - Aug 12, 2003 7:39:45 am PDT #6272 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

I think Slayers have always been ignored in Angel; I'd expect that to continue.

I always felt it had more to do with the change of network, since it wasn't the case in Season 1 of Angel (and the 1st ep of Season 2) but you're probably right about it being ignored.


§ ita § - Aug 12, 2003 7:42:27 am PDT #6273 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think Slayers have always been ignored in Angel; I'd expect that to continue.

How do you mean? Both living slayers have appeared on the show, and W&H was keeping track of them.


Burrell - Aug 12, 2003 8:11:43 am PDT #6274 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I was just assuming that, at some point, it'll be too tempting to *not* bring in the multiple Slayer storyline.

Hey, do you think Justine is bitter, what with the *really* not being called?