I'm going to stay out of the gay marriage discussion b/c if I joined in I'd probably have to start using such words as, "kill" and "all" and "Liberals".

Re scones:

You know when milk goes off and you're left with a solid in the bottom half of the carton and a foul smelling liquid in the top half?

According to my mate's recently deceased grandmother, scones were conceived as a method to not waste milk that had gone bad. Thus, proper traditional scones are made with the solid part of sour milk. I don't know what else went into the recipe b/c by this time I'd stuck my fingers in my ears. La La La

Swear to ghod, Snake!

Note to Americans re jimi's post: Australian "Liberals" are not the same as American "liberals". In fact, they're more or less the opposite.

In point of fact, insurance does not usually cover most infertility treatments. In some countries, like Canada, yes, but only after something like a year or more, plus there are other constraints. In the US, it varies greatly, but in most states only diagnostic tests for infertility are covered, not treatments. As far as I know, NZ is like America in its general lack of infertility coverage. Most couples dealing with infertility are also dealing with very heavy out of pocket expenses for treatment.

Note to Americans re jimi's post: Australian "Liberals" are not the same as American "liberals". In fact, they're more or less the opposite.

wonders where this puts them in relation to British terms

decides hide from international politics

I'll just be over here, hiding in the corner.

wonders where this puts them in relation to British terms

Our Libs are your Tories.

I don't follow the logic. Gay couples shouldn't be allowed to marry becuase they won't breed. So does that mean they will breed if they don't marry? The argument is flawed from the get go.

In point of fact, insurance does not usually cover most infertility treatments. In some countries, like Canada, yes, but only after something like a year or more, plus there are other constraints.

Most infertility treatments are not covered in Canada, such as in vetro fertilization, since they are not considered medically necessary. I have a friend who spent over $50,000 trying to get pregnant.

Re the sour milk -- "spoilage" is really a culturally relative term. For people who are used to making cheese -- which is forced curdling -- soured milk is no big deal.

I don't follow the logic.

That's because it's insane troll-doll logic.

Re the sour milk -- "spoilage" is really a culturally relative term. For people who are used to making cheese -- which is forced curdling -- soured milk is no big deal.

nods

First time I was in Romania, some 6 or 7 years ago, I was presented with a glass of cold milk by my hosts. It was sour. It had skin on the top.

(Getting milk at all was a relatively new thing in the town, and very exciting, and it was brought in from farms and people went and collected it and absolutely didn't waste it. I don't think it was pasteurised or anything, but I'm not sure.)