Just don't eat any bagels west of the Delaware.

Hey LA has some of the greatest bagels of all times. I know a lot of transplanted New Yorkers who admit this.

As to the odd flavored bagels: Well the classics are still available. But once you allow cinammon-raisin, I don't see how you can excluded all the other sweet flavors. Similarly given garlic and onion bagels, I don't see how you can arbitrarily exclude the Jalepano and so forth.

Mind you, garlic, onion and plain are still my favorites..

Since, by definition, an "everything" bagel is the set of all possible bagels, if something has an ingredient in it that isn't in an everything bagel, then it isn't a bagel.

QED.

Ow! Tom made my brain hurt.

I refute his logic with the fact that at times in human history, doughnuts have been available with jelly beans on them. I mean, not that anybody ate them, because that's gross and disgusting, but they were available.

Ergo: just because it goes against all laws of God and Man, doesn't mean someone won't try to sell it.

That goes double when you're putting blueberries and jalapeños into the same baked goods.

If you put them together that could be the most Disgusting Thing Ever. But somebody would buy it.

It's pastry, for crying out loud! How can you have good pastry without butter (or equivalent)?

Goose fat is lovely, or so I hear. Not being one to roast a goose, nor one to attempt baking pastries, I've never tried it myself.

To the traditional plain, poppyseed, and sesame, I'll add the egg bagel. And I'll admit a fondness for the fatfest that is the cheese bagel, but I fully recognize that it is not the industry standard. After that, they are round rolls of various flavors, including the cinnamon raisin.

And yes, you can get wonderful bagels in LA, you just have to search them out and avoid anything called "Noah's" like the plague.

Except that "everything" is one of the new flavors and thus can't be used to define the set of all bagels.

Also everything bagels do not have cinammon or raisins which were grandfathered in to classic list. Thus it cannot be a true "everything" bagel and is misnamed.

Quick Excited Denial...

Two words: cranberry bagels. t shudder

Who grandfathered in cinnamon raisin bagels? I've always hated them. They fail my basic bagel need, which is to be a vehicle for lox and cream cheese.

But cinammon raisin has always been there. Never been my favorite either (I agree that a bagel is ideally a vehical for creamcheese and lox.) But I know Cinammon-raisin was there when I was a kid, and I think well before that too. So it is grandfathered because it was one of the classics. Not everything authentic is good. On the other hand, cheese jalepano, thought not a great vehicle for lox, and not classic is GOOD. As opposed to the damn thing someone tried to offer me as a bagel the other day. It was soft. Roll with a hole.

Two words: cranberry bagels.

Those actually taste kinda good.

IJS.