You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Burrell - Aug 02, 2003 8:22:18 am PDT #6095 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Who grandfathered in cinnamon raisin bagels? I've always hated them. They fail my basic bagel need, which is to be a vehicle for lox and cream cheese.


Typo Boy - Aug 02, 2003 8:35:22 am PDT #6096 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

But cinammon raisin has always been there. Never been my favorite either (I agree that a bagel is ideally a vehical for creamcheese and lox.) But I know Cinammon-raisin was there when I was a kid, and I think well before that too. So it is grandfathered because it was one of the classics. Not everything authentic is good. On the other hand, cheese jalepano, thought not a great vehicle for lox, and not classic is GOOD. As opposed to the damn thing someone tried to offer me as a bagel the other day. It was soft. Roll with a hole.


P.M. Marc - Aug 02, 2003 8:40:44 am PDT #6097 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Two words: cranberry bagels.

Those actually taste kinda good.

IJS.


Burrell - Aug 02, 2003 8:49:16 am PDT #6098 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

So it is grandfathered because it was one of the classics. Not everything authentic is good.

Sigh. Okay.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 02, 2003 9:06:54 am PDT #6099 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

While we're doing comparative foodstuffs, can I enquire of Americans what exactly classic American apple pie entails? I have images in my head-- of what I'd call apple crumble-- but I suspect I'm wildly off the mark. Enlighen me?


P.M. Marc - Aug 02, 2003 9:17:32 am PDT #6100 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

While we're doing comparative foodstuffs, can I enquire of Americans what exactly classic American apple pie entails? I have images in my head-- of what I'd call apple crumble-- but I suspect I'm wildly off the mark. Enlighen me?

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Typo Boy - Aug 02, 2003 9:18:26 am PDT #6101 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Classic American pie has bottom pie crust, and apple based filling and a top pie crust. Someone once told me it was actually invented in Egypt.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Aug 02, 2003 9:21:51 am PDT #6102 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Thank you. It's good to know these things.


Trudy Booth - Aug 02, 2003 9:35:10 am PDT #6103 of 9843
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

As to the odd flavored bagels: Well the classics are still available. But once you allow cinammon-raisin, I don't see how you can excluded all the other sweet flavors. Similarly given garlic and onion bagels, I don't see how you can arbitrarily exclude the Jalepano and so forth.

Mind you, garlic, onion and plain are still my favorites..

If some poor starving Jew in the shtetl could acquire the ingredient it's permitted. Did Bubbe have jalepenos? I think not.

Since, by definition, an "everything" bagel is the set of all possible bagels, if something has an ingredient in it that isn't in an everything bagel, then it isn't a bagel.

Tom is wise. Rasins are merely an exception and should remain the SOLE exception.

Go nuts with the cream cheese, people. Have at. Put olives or chives or pickled baby toes in it for all I care.


Fiona - Aug 02, 2003 9:40:07 am PDT #6104 of 9843

A quick Google reveals all sorts of pronuciations for the word 'scone': it can rhyme with bone, with gone or with moon.

Actually, I think it's only the Scottish town (also spelled Scone) which is pronounced to rhyme with moon. Or if anyone else does, they're weird. Ah, the scone pronunciation wars will probably never end.

Are UK muffins the same as what Americans call English Muffins? I.e., little flat bread-y circles that you cut in two and find lots of little holes ("nooks and crannies") into which to spread butter?

Actually, this sounds to me more like what the English call crumpets. Toasted, with butter which melts into the holes - mmmmm....