Also, um--when did Connor get so hot? Was I just not paying attention?
HA! Give in to the Bon Bon!
Damn, I love that show.
Tara: 'Your One-Stop Spot to Shop for Lots of New-Age and Occult Items.' Catchy. Giles: Think so? Tara: Uh huh. In a... hard to say sorta way.
'Sleeper'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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P.M. Marc - Jul 22, 2003 6:49:12 am PDT #5832 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear
Angus G - Jul 22, 2003 6:55:05 am PDT #5833 of 9843
Roguish Laird
Waaah! My television finally decided to die tonight. I think the tube exploded or something, in any case it seems terminal. Fortunately the VCR is still working so I'm taping stuff, but I'm going to be on severe delay.
Thank God this didn't happen before the Big Brother finale, that's all I can say!
Kassto - Jul 22, 2003 11:24:29 am PDT #5834 of 9843
`He combed his hair, Put on a shirt that his mother made, And he went on the air...'
Once Were Warriors is subtitled for Americans?? Yeek! Then again, didn't someone say that the Americans and the British were the same people divided by a different language.
§ ita § - Jul 22, 2003 11:26:30 am PDT #5835 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I love watching subtitles on J'can movies. It seems kinda indicative of a notsorare J'can mindset that the captioner seems to have their own unapologetic idea of what the characters should be saying.
Typo Boy - Jul 22, 2003 11:26:59 am PDT #5836 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Shaw. Divided by a common language. Though he may have stolen it from Wilde.
Typo Boy - Jul 22, 2003 11:27:16 am PDT #5837 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
meara - Jul 22, 2003 11:29:26 am PDT #5838 of 9843
It seems kinda indicative of a notsorare J'can mindset that the captioner seems to have their own unapologetic idea of what the characters should be saying.
So the characters say one thing, and the captions don't match at all? Ew.
§ ita § - Jul 22, 2003 11:32:03 am PDT #5839 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
the captions don't match at all?
Not quite that bad, but it sometimes happens that it's the sense (and only most of it) and not the details that are translated (like "I'm not hungry" when the character said "Mi no waan nyam" -- which is just "I don't want to eat").
meara - Jul 22, 2003 11:44:57 am PDT #5840 of 9843
Ah. That happens in a lot of movies, it seems. V. irritating, because often it seems as if that's going on, but I don't speak the language at all (or well enough) to know what's really being said. Was watching a Swedish movie this weekend ("Show Me Love"), and at several points, we wondered what was really being said...
Thus I really like watching subtitled movies in languages I do kinda know (ok, french or spanish), because I might not QUITE be able to follow it without subtitles, but with them, I can follow well enough to listen for subtle translation things.
§ ita § - Jul 22, 2003 11:47:07 am PDT #5841 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I've never found it as egregious in the other languages I know, especially since when patois has a directly equivalent, word-for-word, just alter the pronounciation ... well go for it, no?
I've noticed also, that the subtitles in English sometimes vary on English works, but really not much at all. It's much funnier when they're wrong, as happened in All The President's Men (and no, I can't remember the line, but they were standing on some stairs outside a building, and I think they were talking about a party).