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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Leigh - Apr 23, 2003 6:36:59 am PDT #4014 of 9843
Nobody

I'm meara-ing like crazy here, so bear with me.

Does that make sense to anyone who isn't me?

Yep. I agree, tho' sometimes I listen to the words of a Spuffy scene and I think they should *sound* less fake than they do, but maybe its just my prejudice talking :) .

Wrt SMG and her acting - I like Buffy well enough, but for me the engagement has always been with the show as an ensemble piece. Totally. Ditto for AtS. I've taken SMG's acting for granted...

Hmm, sometimes I can't decide whether I watch BtVS/Ats for the ensemble or for the leads. I mean I don't think I'd watch BtVS without Buffy herself, or Ats without Angel, but I also feel that way about almost all of the core cast members of either show. (Like Willow & Xander, or...hmm, only Wesley seems to fit that category on Ats for me, I wonder why? *lick*)

But Kingston's one of the more medium-density suburbs of Canberra (lots of apartment blocks, a number of relatively upscale ones too). Yet Manuka, just down the road, is doing quite nicely for weekend dining.

Heh, I suspect corporate facism then - wait, do we have corporate facism in Canberra, or do we just get politicians? I hardly think it's fair if we have both.

Should I mentinon that Bec grew up in Bega?

I lurrve Bega, my family has a house on the coast at Merimbula, so we drive through often. Almost England-y with the rolling hills and all - though last time it was more of a sepia-tinted England because of the drought.


candyb - Apr 23, 2003 6:37:17 am PDT #4015 of 9843

Makes sense to me Cindy because I agree.

I think that Buffy's development has been very logical, but that doesn't mean it's been as fun to watch.

Yes to this, but also I just don't think Buffy has been written very well lately.


Lady O' Spain - Apr 23, 2003 7:30:15 am PDT #4016 of 9843
Red hair and black leather--my favorite color scheme.

Yes to this, but also I just don't think Buffy has been written very well lately.

Yeah, that's part of it too--I find myself watching and thinking, "I see what they're doing here, and it makes sense, but I wonder if it couldn't have been done better." The show doesn't seem as tightly put together as it did up through season 4. Maybe because Joss has been elsewhere a lot? Or have the characters just evolved to a place where the writers are haveing trouble writing as well for them?


brenda m - Apr 23, 2003 8:20:44 am PDT #4017 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

"You have the right to remains silent, but it may harm your defence if you fail to mention anything you later rely on in court."

Oh my lord, that is appalling.

I have a hard time distinguishing between my take on the character and the actress, especially with the current season. I know SMG has the chops, we've seen it before, so determining what is the character going in a direction I might not see and what is the actress failing to convey is difficult. Vague much? Most of my concrete thoughts on this issue have to do with the current season, so I'm having trouble expressing my meaning without veering into dangerous territory.


Jim - Apr 23, 2003 8:22:46 am PDT #4018 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Oh my lord, that is appalling

Yes. We have terrible problems with this kind of thing over here - not having a constitution makes it relatively easy to nibble away at civil rights.


CaBil - Apr 23, 2003 8:53:26 am PDT #4019 of 9843
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Yes. We have terrible problems with this kind of thing over here - not having a constitution makes it relatively easy to nibble away at civil rights.

Oh, it's too damn easy over here too. Especially with a bunch of Supreme Court weenies who think our current protections are far more than what the Consitution means is necessary.

They are going to hear a case in which evidence found before Mirandized is legally admissable, just not your actual statement which allowed said evidence to be found.

A truly despicable bit of legal wordplay.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2003 9:38:08 am PDT #4020 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've always wondered about Miranda ("Anything you say can and will be used against you") -- WILL? No it won't I bet. Just odd.

I'm sad to see that the UK version is even less about the accused. Interestingly, this was brought to mind from watching an episode of Waking The Dead where they did something patently illegal (and would have gotten busted if this were CSI or L&O) as part of their investigation. But the dude got read his rights.


Jim - Apr 23, 2003 9:42:10 am PDT #4021 of 9843
Ficht nicht mit Der Raketemensch!

Waking the Dead is pretty damn good, isn't it? And they're always doing illegal stuff.


§ ita § - Apr 23, 2003 9:49:50 am PDT #4022 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Waking the Dead is pretty damn good, isn't it?

Love it. It's like CSI without the glam. And with more protective clothing. And the sexual tension, though the platonic interactions are also great.


UTTAD - Apr 23, 2003 9:58:43 am PDT #4023 of 9843
Strawberry disappointment.

There's different wording in Scotland, Scots Law being different from English.