Looks like civilization finally caught up with us.

Mal ,'Bushwhacked'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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sumi - Nov 15, 2002 12:50:23 pm PST #393 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

We're talking SMG not Buffy.

Buffy is from California - - of course.


Sophia Brooks - Nov 15, 2002 12:50:59 pm PST #394 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think SMG sounds normal to me because that nasal cavity sound is really prevelent in NYS, where I live.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Nov 15, 2002 12:55:57 pm PST #395 of 9843
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

Do you unAmericans think Buffy has a different accent than the rest of the cast (excluding English and faux-English characters)?

I'm intrested in the answers to this becuase accents is a personal intrest, but I don't notice that Buffy is harder to understand than the rest of the cast. She does use the nasal-cavity 'n' that sounds almost French at times, but my (ignorant-of-America-in-real-life) feeling is that she's as much Californian as the rest of them (Willow, Tara, Cordelia, etc). I find all the American accents grating at times, and I try to only really listen hard to Giles, but that's a personal thing.


Daisy Jane - Nov 15, 2002 12:59:49 pm PST #396 of 9843
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

The nasal thing reminds me of and sounds like people I know here who talk in a "loud so everyone can hear the sound of my voice" way.


Hil R. - Nov 15, 2002 1:03:04 pm PST #397 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

SMG, when I've seen interviews and stuff, sounds very NY to me. As Buffy, her accent/inflections shift around slightly. In the early seasons, I thought she sounded very California, but those inflections don't seem as obvious now. (Well, they come and go. Sometimes that sort of sing-songy Valleyness is there, and sometimes it isn't.)


Typo Boy - Nov 15, 2002 2:15:30 pm PST #398 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Sometimes that sort of sing-songy Valleyness is there, and sometimes it isn't.

A lot of val-speak is jargon or affectation rather that a true dialect. (That is I think people first learn in conciously and then it becomes a habit. or not.) So I think it makes sense that it would come and go.


Madrigal Costello - Nov 15, 2002 2:45:29 pm PST #399 of 9843
It's a remora, dimwit.

I think the Vallyness was stronger during the first seasons when they were emphasizing her as the 90210-er turned fighter of the undead. But as they've moved away from that, she's let it drop a bit. IME, among un-Americans, the unintelligible one, or the one with the most annoying voice is usually Willow. I tried to hook one friend from London, but she kept yelling, "Just blow your goddamn nose already!" at the girl.


DavidS - Nov 15, 2002 3:35:10 pm PST #400 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A real California accent rolls the "Rs" as in the Beach Boys "East coast gurrrrrls uhrrr hip..."

Isn't she from NY or NJ originally?

She grew up in Manhattan.


Betsy HP - Nov 15, 2002 3:45:57 pm PST #401 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

Those aren't rolled Rs. Rolled Rs are what you hear in Spanish, or from old-school British actors. "erre con erre cigarro. Erre con erre barril. Rapidos corren los carros cargados con azĂșcar del ferrocarril."

California Rs (now officially to be known as Marsters Rs) are just strongly emphasized.


DavidS - Nov 15, 2002 3:46:34 pm PST #402 of 9843
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

California Rs (now officially to be known as Marsters Rs) are just strongly emphasized.

James MaRRRRSters