Nigel fucking Havers? I turn my back for 5 minutes and you all come out as NIGEL HAVERS fans? If you just can't live without insipid post-Anthony Andrews pseudo-posho '80s actors, why not go with James Wilby? Rupert Graves? Michael Kitchen? Jesus, I'd have more respect for you if you got gushy about Christopher Cazenove or Peter Bowles than bloody Havers!

For the record, no English people like Havers. Fiona, as a scotto-german-american, doesn't count.

On a more frivolous note - Angus is right, the fact that we're using "un-Buffista-like" as a serious term is concerning.

Also, the Lesbian Spank Inferno episode is the peak of Coupling - it's never that funny again. "Why do all the other girls decide they should be spanked?" "........sisterhood?".

If you just can't live without insipid post-Anthony Andrews pseudo-posho '80s actors

Looks like you spelled inisipip wrong there, Jim!

On a more frivolous note - Angus is right, the fact that we're using "un-Buffista-like" as a serious term is concerning.

A. I think originally, that was me, and now that displeasure has been voiced twice, first I'd like to say that in context, it wasn't any kind of serious charge, as much as it was shorthand for summing up a giant pain in my arse

And...

B. I'll just shut up now

C. If you need me, I'll be in the garden, eating worms.

Anyone got any catsup? I'd ask Nigel, but only Americans know how to make catsup.

I'd ask Nigel, but only Americans know how to make catsup.

Which Nigel, Cindy? Nigel Havers, Nigel Slater...?

Nigel Havers, Nigel Slater...?

Nigel Hawthorn?

Nigel Kennedy?

The word Nigel is starting to sound funny...

There are no American Nigels, so I really don't have to specify. Please don't make me talk again while I have worms in my mouth.

Well, I can send you a care package from SF, if you'd like.

That's ok. I still have stuff left over from a care package I received for my birthday (and, in any case, the sites I linked to ship nationwide.)

Now see, for me, Haig's is the One.True.Chocolate.

I think Bec would agree with you.

Also, the Lesbian Spank Inferno episode is the peak of Coupling - it's never that funny again. "Why do all the other girls decide they should be spanked?" "........sisterhood?".

For me it's The Cupboard of Patrick's Love.

Nigel, Nigel - the word has lost all meaning.

Nigel Rees! Another better cut-rate Anthony Andrews than the fool Havers!

Nigel Rees!

I'll chime in with the Nigel Rees love. Definately.

Nigel fucking Havers? I turn my back for 5 minutes and you all come out as NIGEL HAVERS fans?

THANK YOU JIM! Where were you when I needed you a couple of days ago? Oh, that's right, bloody Paris.

Re: un-Buffistalike, it's certainly not just you, Cindy. It's been thrown around a fair bit lately. I may have even said it myself. It's just that it's my impression that when we used to use phrases like this it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, we still had a sense of how silly they sounded and we were never more than half-serious. It's the sense that the phrase has now become sedimented in usage to the point that it's now available for people to use in a completely unironic and (I would posit) rather smug and complacent sense that bothers me, not the fact that any particular person is doing it. (Cf. the trajectory of the term "politically correct" in the wider culture for a near-exact writ-large analogy.)

But I'm in danger of making this a bigger issue than it is...I'd just encourage people to think twice when they start confidently asserting that such-and-such is "not the way we do things around here" etc. etc.