Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Angus G - Apr 22, 2003 7:47:13 am PDT #3869 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Nigel fucking Havers? I turn my back for 5 minutes and you all come out as NIGEL HAVERS fans?

THANK YOU JIM! Where were you when I needed you a couple of days ago? Oh, that's right, bloody Paris.

Re: un-Buffistalike, it's certainly not just you, Cindy. It's been thrown around a fair bit lately. I may have even said it myself. It's just that it's my impression that when we used to use phrases like this it was a bit tongue-in-cheek, we still had a sense of how silly they sounded and we were never more than half-serious. It's the sense that the phrase has now become sedimented in usage to the point that it's now available for people to use in a completely unironic and (I would posit) rather smug and complacent sense that bothers me, not the fact that any particular person is doing it. (Cf. the trajectory of the term "politically correct" in the wider culture for a near-exact writ-large analogy.)

But I'm in danger of making this a bigger issue than it is...I'd just encourage people to think twice when they start confidently asserting that such-and-such is "not the way we do things around here" etc. etc.


Nutty - Apr 22, 2003 7:52:46 am PDT #3870 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I have never seen Nigel Havers. Rupert Graves, on the other hand, I have seen in the complete buff in no fewer than three movies. And, you know, not bad. I suppose, if one is to be a compulsive nudist, that one might as well consider a career in film.

I have never met an American Nigel, or an American Rupert. In name books I've looked at, both fall into the "RAF names" category.


Cindy - Apr 22, 2003 8:02:06 am PDT #3871 of 9843
Nobody

Angus - Just so you know, there's no worry of a big thing for me. When I read your comment originally, I gulped, because I was trying to be if not ironic, then at least cute in using it. I'm with you and wouldn't want it to become a straight line, either. When Jim also mentioned it, I realized it was being taken that way. I just wanted to clear up that I wasn't using it entirely seriously. Originally, I used it either to or about Z, and I was using it as a way to say pain in my arse, rather than come out and say it, because that felt mean. But I hear you and agree. UnBuffista-ly is entirely unBuffista-ly. ;)


Angus G - Apr 22, 2003 8:07:29 am PDT #3872 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Thanks, Cindy! We're cool.


Typo Boy - Apr 22, 2003 8:23:39 am PDT #3873 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Oh for those desperately seeking various British goods in the U.S. - have you tried an Indian (as in from India) shop? Most areas in the U.S. do have a substantial Indian population; and Indian shops generally carry a huge selection of British sweets, not to mention amazing bargains on spices, and the odd tin of marmite and vegamite.


sumi - Apr 22, 2003 8:26:26 am PDT #3874 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!

The only American Nigel I've met was a cat, owned by an Anglophile.


meara - Apr 22, 2003 8:36:22 am PDT #3875 of 9843

You know what I miss? Jaffa Cakes

YES! Loved those things. When I was with friends in Scotland, we bought some while on one of our little day trips, and we won a stuffed animal (whatever the thing was that came to steal the orangey goodness, I forget the name). Except we couldn't really win it becuase you had to have a UK mailing address! Mean!

And I can find Pims that are very similar, but are just not the same (and are like, $4 a box, so...).

Supposedly there's a British Store in northern Virginia, somewhere near where I used to live, but I never did find it...


Cindy - Apr 22, 2003 8:36:43 am PDT #3876 of 9843
Nobody

The only American Nigel I've met was a cat, owned by an Anglophile.

All cats are British.


Beverly - Apr 22, 2003 8:52:23 am PDT #3877 of 9843
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

All cats are British.

Except the ones who are French.


Sheryl - Apr 22, 2003 8:56:02 am PDT #3878 of 9843
Fandom means never having to say "But where would I wear that?"

I thought all cats were French.(well, at least according to Jon Carroll they are.) They understand English when it suits them to...