Fay - I'd add another reasons for being against the death penalty.
We should not kill people, even dangerous horrible people, when we have a reasonable alternative. It is one thing to kill in self-defense; it is quite another to kill someone you already have safely locked up. Not so much for what it does to them as for what it does to you.
Crimes hideous enough to kill someone for are probably probably hideous enough to torture someone for. I mean some of the more gruesome serial killers, I probably would not shed many tears if they were made to suffer a bit before being executed. But I am against the death penalty and the addition of a torture penalty for the same reason: even if applied only those obviously guilty of truly awful crimes they warp the society that carries them out; and locking the guilty up is a reasonable alternative. Er, I hope it is obvious that I am not bringing the issue of torture up as a straw man. (You said nothing about it.) I bring it up because I believe it has genuine and enlightening parallels to the killing of murderers as punishment/protection.
Fay, you're speaking for me.
BTW, I see that a certain person was so incensed by my recent Nigel Havers diss that she mentioned it in her LiveJournal! This amuses me vastly.
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Well, I *WAS* somewhat intoxicated.
You will note the list began with "#1. I am a SPAZ.
And ended with "#5. scotch is nummy."
ION, we've been hooked on Coupling. Curse you, wee Brits.
ION, we've been hooked on Coupling. Curse you, wee Brits.
But seriously, what other choice did you have? I mean, really.
BTW, Ple, did you hear that Kylie Minogue was stopped from boarding an airplane until a staff member could take her to her seat? Apparently they mistook her for a minor.
BTW, Ple, did you hear that Kylie Minogue was stopped from boarding an airplane until a staff member could take her to her seat? Apparently they mistook her for a minor.
No! That's hilarious.
But seriously, what other choice did you have? I mean, really.
We were all set to settle in with cocktails and The Avengers, you see. But no, Coupling caught us.
We were all set to settle in with cocktails and The Avengers, you see. But no, Coupling caught us.
You're talking Avengers the series, right? Because that could cause moments of indecision. But no, you made the right choice. The only choice. (Which Coupling ep?)
You're talking Avengers the series, right? Because that could cause moments of indecision. But no, you made the right choice. The only choice. (Which Coupling ep?)
The series. Black and white (I think we're still on the last DVD of 1965, but we could be up to 1966).
Umm. The one with the bisexual girl, the bathroom with no lock, and the pizza.
Umm. The one with the bisexual girl, the bathroom with no lock, and the pizza.
Right. Not a bad one, that, though they've done the schtick before (the one with Steve trying to justify the plot of
Lesbian Spank Inferno).
There's a plot to Lesbian Spank Inferno? Huh, who knew? I'll have to watch it again.
There's a plot to Lesbian Spank Inferno? Huh, who knew? I'll have to watch it again.
Hee. Thence cometh the humour.
"But why does the loser want to be spanked?"
"I... think she feels quite badly about her film."
OK - a different kind of phone porn. (Warning - does involve as much actual porn as the Register is capable of.)
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x-posted from natter.