Jayne ,'Jaynestown'
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It's an old Star Trek fandom thing from the Seventies, Julie.
FIAWOL means Fandom Is a Way of Life. FIJAGH means Fandom is Just a Goddamn Hobby.
By the way, I love your posts so far!
There's plenty of me in older Natter threads, but I just don't have the time to Natter anymore.
Leaning out the window as I drive by...
but towards the end there I was ready to trade BtVS and Angel for more Firefly.
Hey, I’m still there. Firefly was brilliant. Sigh.
I'm with Burrell. Firefly was such a breath of fresh air. Not to slam Buffy or Angel, but I would not expect the same team of writers to be able to keep churning out deep, socially analytical manuscripts in the same context for years and years and years. Eventually, you've tackled all the big subjects and it's time to move on to something new.
They've got to get out and stretch their muscles in a different genre. The wonderfullness of Firefly was the result.
Which probably means someone's going to tell me that Firefly was written by a completely different team than Buffy or Angel and my analogy doesn't work. Drat.
Short version (too late): I'd trade Buffy and Angel for Firefly, too. And when the time came, I'd trade Firefly and its fabulous spinoff, (The Early Show? Wash's Excellent Adventures with Dinosaurs? A Tour of Jayne's Bunk?), for Joss's next big idea.
Am I in the wrong thread?
Can I be in the corner with Burrell and Ms. H? The "trade Buffy and Angel for more Firefly corner," I mean. Although I'm sure both women are pleasant and amusing company, not to say positively eddifying and whatnot. But just to clarify.
(Bev puts down the wineglass and moves along.)
Ta, Caroma!
FIAWOL means Fandom Is a Way of Life.
FIJAGH means Fandom is Just a Goddamn Hobby.
Anyone else singing "Fandom's just another word for nothing left to lose"?
Just me then :)
Am I in the wrong thread?
If Ms. Havisham's wrong, I don't wanna be right :)
Can I be in the corner with Burrell and Ms. H?
It's getting crowded in here, Beverly... By which I mean, Yay!
Although I'm sure both women are pleasant and amusing company, not to say positively eddifying and whatnot.
Actually, since I found out about the kerfuffle about Zoe (haven't been reading Angel 'cause I've been behind in the watching) and since watching the war disagreements here with Caroma, I've been feeling a need to keep a low profile.
And don't take the wine away, Bev! If I'm going to be up past my bedtime, give me an excuse. :)
Anyone else singing "Fandom's just another word for nothing left to lose"?
I am now.
Sean, you there? Grab that one, wouldja?
Whee! More the merrier. I saw so much more in Firefly than Buffy--
No, start at the beginning. Buffy was so innovative and fresh and had such a punch when it started, and it kept getting better. And then the strain started to show, the effort of keeping it good. The show outgrew the premise and had to search and fumble a bit for the next thing, and by the time it had settled into it, it wasn't, somehow, as shiny anymore. But hey! There was Angel, and it was gawky and new and fresh and wow, they were doing some mighty interesting and innovative stuff there, and ...
like that. Both shows, better than anything else (I watched, anyway) on tv, but not as full of newness, that fresh energy, that can't-wait-to-see-where-it-goes-next feeling. And Firefly had that. Plus, it was grownups. And it was premises that were done to death, old-hat, cliched, more than one of them, one would think unmixy. But put them in a magic box and shake them up, let Joss give them an oblique twist, and hey! Firefly. Everything about it clicked. Even starting with The Train Job, even shuffled airing order, it caught me first episode. Even the western-speak and the theme music.
The best thing on tv since Farscape.
Yeah, I'm still bitter.
Can I be in the corner with Burrell and Ms. H?
It's a very good corner.
(sets carafe on table with clean glasses)
Help yourselves. House red. Cheap, but tasty.
Yeah, I'm still bitter.
Yeah. Firefly didn't hurt as much as Farscape: I didn't grow inside the characters, didn't have time, but bitter? Definitely.