My mom. Most of the people at work. My pastor and some of the priests at my (very liberal) Catholic church. Almost all of the radio and TV outlets I go to regularly. The people here. Myself until I started to look at a variety of arguments from people like Elie Weisel and Tom Friedman. How about you and the opposite view?

Actually, a great many people in my life have not made their views known to me. There's been sort of a moratorium on discussing it among me and my friends. It's considered quite a gaffe to even bring it up in many circles in NYC, perhaps because of 9/11. And the people who do, on both sides, seem to want to talk only to people who already agree with them.

And Zoe, all I can say if that if we wanted to annihilate the country, you'd be seeing carnage on a scale that could be measured in the millions. Trust me. The measures the Coalition has taken to spare civilains have been incredible. Not foolproof, especially when dealing with an enemy that sees no problem with pushing women and children in front of them as they shoot, but amazingly effective.

Hee *Vader Vision* I ammuse myself :-P

Alarmed by Kyp's proposed aggression, Skywalker forbade preemptive strikes and retaliatory actions..., since such actions invariably lead to the dark side.

Which is the exact equivalent of black magic...see how I cunningly make it relevent?...and back to the light side = white magic.

see how I cunningly make it relevent?

Er... frankly, no.

Zoe? I'm trying to say this so it doesn't come out rudely, but: do you actually read the conversations in a thread before you post in it? Because lately it seems to me that you just toss things out there with no understanding of what's being discussed (I've noticed it both in this thread and in UnAmericans at WX), and I find it disruptive.

Yes. As a matter of fact I pretty much read every single post.

It is OK to have a different point of view, yes?

There's been sort of a moratorium on discussing it among me and my friends. It's considered quite a gaffe to even bring it up in many circles in NYC, perhaps because of 9/11. And the people who do, on both sides, seem to want to talk only to people who already agree with them.

I don't think this is just in NYC. I've noticed it everywhere. It's a heated subject, and it can into an argument. Often, it's just more comfortable to let it lie.

t edit: I mean in real life, not here.

It is OK to have a different point of view, yes?

Absolutely, and I never said it wasn't. It's just that you have a habit of posting things that are irrelevant to the conversation, which is frustrating in an in-depth conversation like the ones we seem to be having a lot of in this thread lately.

That is not a fair allegation.
My posts are always relevent although often tangential and occaissionally pointed and on rare occaisions humerous. I do not write essays I just say what I think.

My posts are always relevent

A lot of people would disagree with this, Zoe. You might want to stop by the Bureaucracy thread, since we're actually discussing it right now. I know several people have tried to get your attention about it, but the conversation is still on-going, and if you want to weigh in, this is the time.

That is not a fair allegation.

Perhaps I should state, then, that it's just my opinion. Sorry if I have offended you.

That is not a fair allegation. My posts are always relevent although often tangential and occaissionally pointed and on rare occaisions humerous.

Got to agree that your posts do often baffle me, and I'm still trying to fathom the context of the Star Wars one.