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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Hil R. - Apr 01, 2003 1:18:16 pm PST #2953 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

What is unincorporated land?

Land that's not part of any town.


Nutty - Apr 01, 2003 1:18:18 pm PST #2954 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Land that doesn't count as part of a town. Virginia is organized into cities (8 of them) and counties, because there are parts of every county that just isn't part of a town, so it needs a county to govern it.

Whereas, every square inch of Massachusetts is a town, even though many parts of it are still woods.


Zoe Ann - Apr 01, 2003 1:20:38 pm PST #2955 of 9843
Mathair & Athair beo.

When I imagine each state as like a separate country I can begin to imagine.


Lady O' Spain - Apr 01, 2003 1:26:56 pm PST #2956 of 9843
Red hair and black leather--my favorite color scheme.

When I imagine each state as like a separate country I can begin to imagine.

See, I had to do the reverse with Europe. I used to mentally picture all of the world's countries as being America-sized. When I finally got to Europe and realized that one could drive for 1 day and pass through 3 separate nations, I think I sprained something in my head. So now I just imagine Europe as a bunch of states--okay, states that have different languages, goverments, histories currencies...well, not so much the currencies anymore...


Hayden - Apr 01, 2003 1:43:53 pm PST #2957 of 9843
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

Hayden thanks for info. Will look up Goodwyn. I don't have much specific stuff on the civil rights movement or minority politics.

Also recommended:

The Children - David Halberstam
Carry Me Home - Diane McWhorter
Civilities & Civil Rights - William Chafe
Remembering Jim Crow - William Chafe, Raymond Gavins, and Robert Korstad (or any oral history)
Schoolhouse Door - Culpepper Clark
Personal Politics - Sara Evans


Sophia Brooks - Apr 01, 2003 1:47:57 pm PST #2958 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

But if there is no town-- who plows the roads? And has the fire department?

very confusing!


Nutty - Apr 01, 2003 1:51:34 pm PST #2959 of 9843
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

That's done by the county, because there is no town.

I find it really irritating, in Virginia, e.g., because the restaurant tax varies from one county to another. So you're in Arlington Cty, and you get coffee from Starbucks, and it's $1.50 + 10% tax; but the same cup of coffee in Alexandria is $1.50 + 5% tax. Of course, all the good restaurants are in Arlington.

Whereas in Massachusetts every town has a budget and a government, although we still do county courthouses (and I think sheriffs? Maybe that's only Connecticut).


amych - Apr 01, 2003 2:00:41 pm PST #2960 of 9843
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

(deleted because I was nitpicking something I misread in the first place)


flea - Apr 01, 2003 2:07:11 pm PST #2961 of 9843
information libertarian

In Fall 2000 elections CT abolished the county sherriff, due to redundancy. I voted to abolish! There are still county courts in CT though.


Consuela - Apr 01, 2003 2:17:02 pm PST #2962 of 9843
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Gar, no, I'm in SF now, but I lived in Portland for 4 years in the early 90s.

And yes, the counties pick up the slack in the West and South for functions the towns and cities do in the Northeast. I didn't even know what county I lived in when I was growing up, as the only function it serves in Massachusetts has to do with the court system. Bizarre.