Illyria: Wesley's dead. I'm feeling grief for him. I can't seem to control it. I wish to do more violence. Spike: Well, wishes just happen to be horses today.

'Not Fade Away'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Burrell - Oct 20, 2002 11:20:06 pm PDT #252 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

If we come to a situation where people should be expected to take firearms to a family outing or to a university, then I really don't know who's already won, but I'm pretty sure the rest of us have lost.

Wrod. Although I do think there is a difference between owning rifles for hunting, or even handguns for use on shooting ranges, and owning a gun "for protection." It's the logic of that last one that gets people into trouble.


billytea - Oct 20, 2002 11:25:52 pm PDT #253 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Wrod. Although I do think there is a difference between owning rifles for hunting, or even handguns for use on shooting ranges, and owning a gun "for protection." It's the logic of that last one that gets people into trouble.

One of this guy's arguments (his weakest one, IMO) in favour of gun ownership was that Australia performed well in sports shooting competitions, eg the Olympics. The IOC being a recognised moral authority and all.

I agree that guns on shooting ranges aren't a problem. For that matter, they're work tools for some people, and not just security personnel; my in-laws have a farm and guns, and they have cause for the latter. Hunting squicks me, but that relates more to the idea of killing creatures for sport. It wouldn't really make much difference how they did it. (My supervisor, BTW, is an avid hunter.)


plasmo - Oct 21, 2002 12:11:10 am PDT #254 of 9843
{[-_-]}

Yes, I have no problem with farmers, park rangers and the likes having guns. Anyway, many other people have permits to own guns too. Just not fully automatic ones.


Burrell - Oct 21, 2002 12:12:27 am PDT #255 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Really I can't think of a reason why a regular ol' citizen is ever going to need an automatic weapon.


plasmo - Oct 21, 2002 12:16:58 am PDT #256 of 9843
{[-_-]}

Buffistas.org - the voice of reason

It's such a relief to be here. {hugs to all}


Nilly - Oct 21, 2002 1:56:39 am PDT #257 of 9843
Swouncing

I was just reading the news and coming here to ask if all the Melbourne Buffistas and their loved ones are OK. It's good to know they are.


DXMachina - Oct 21, 2002 5:38:01 am PDT #258 of 9843
You always do this. We get tipsy, and you take advantage of my love of the scientific method.

The shooting happened on the sixth floor of the Robert Menzies building, which is home to the Faculty of Arts and Humanities.

I really hate to bring this up, but wouldn't this be where Angus teaches? Has he checked in?


Sophia Brooks - Oct 21, 2002 5:39:41 am PDT #259 of 9843
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

I think Angus is still out ill. I am not, however, certain.


Theodosia - Oct 21, 2002 5:52:08 am PDT #260 of 9843
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Just more reassurance for plasmo that all Americans are not gun-boosting zealots. Both of my brothers are cops who regularly patrol, do traffic stops, intervene in domestic disputes, et cetera, all occasions made much more perilous by the quick access that our society is permitted access to hand guns.

(At minimum, I feel guns should be licensed/permitted along the same lines that cars are, which includes annual inspections and 'gun insurance.')


Jessica - Oct 21, 2002 7:16:43 am PDT #261 of 9843
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Really I can't think of a reason why a regular ol' citizen is ever going to need an automatic weapon.

It's for hunting your modern superanimals.