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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Deena - Mar 20, 2003 10:30:36 pm PST #2496 of 9843
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

making mad notes

You are all so awesome. Thank you for the help.


John H - Mar 20, 2003 10:32:10 pm PST #2497 of 9843

I mean, seriously, all our major cities are port cities.
*cough*Canberra*cough*

Like I said, all our major cities...

I think Australia should have a radical green party win an election and sever all ties with the US. In the story. Or, hold on, maybe I mean in real life?

New Zealand recently had that radical policy of spending far less money on the armed forces and far more on boring old hospitals and schools, who knows how far these crazy ideas will spread?


Angus G - Mar 20, 2003 10:33:59 pm PST #2498 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Actually I was wrong, it wasn't during WWII, it was afterwards.

And no, I don't think it would stop us taking in American children. And since they're white and speak English and come from a first world country, who knows, we might even treat them like human beings!


Deena - Mar 20, 2003 10:37:16 pm PST #2499 of 9843
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Thanks for the link Angus. That's heartbreaking -- so many of them!

I think I need to know too much. My protagonist is supposed to "escape" and head out into the bush sometime during the bombing. It's getting longer and more complex the more I think about it.


moonlit - Mar 20, 2003 10:39:52 pm PST #2500 of 9843
"When the world's run by fools it's the duty of intelligence to disobey." Martin Firrell

At the moment the people of Aust would be all for the children and most likely the govt as well (as long as we are talking US children and not ones from Afghanistan etc who might grow up to be terrorists).

Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh, but.

(and yeah Xpost, hi Angus)

And fellow Aussies, I was told yesterday by someone who had just returned from Melbourne after the swearing of allegiance part of being accepted into the army that they have a choice of two oaths to swear and that one includes swearing allegiance to the Queen!

I didn't know that there were two oaths and that they still swore allegiance to the Queen. Any input?

(Random thought: Why isn't it called the United Queendom?)


Angus G - Mar 20, 2003 10:43:14 pm PST #2501 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Moonlit--I'm actually surprised they get a choice. Not at all surprised the Queen is in there.


John H - Mar 20, 2003 10:46:23 pm PST #2502 of 9843

When I became an Australian citizen, I didn't swear an oath to the Queen. I checked I wouldn't have to, or I never would have done it.

I got a choice of an oath with a mention of God and without though.


billytea - Mar 20, 2003 10:47:47 pm PST #2503 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

Like I said, all our major cities...

Hey, without Canberra the media would have no one on whom to scapegoat the government's bonehead decisions. We're performing a valuable function. Lightning rod.

Wait, that doesn't sound right...

I think Australia should have a radical green party win an election and sever all ties with the US. In the story. Or, hold on, maybe I mean in real life?

That would be very difficult under the current electoral system. They could hold balance of power in the Senate, but I don't think that would do any good for a military decision. They might win a couple of seats in the House, and a major party needs to go into coalition with them, and severing military ties with the US is the price for this; that would change your dynamic a bit though. Not necessarily a problem, if you're happy to go that way.

You really do need to get rid of our current PM, though. (Please, we're begging you.)

I think I need to know too much. My protagonist is supposed to "escape" and head out into the bush sometime during the bombing. It's getting longer and more complex the more I think about it.

That really wouldn't be much of a problem in any of the cities suggested. You will need to get a more intimate look at the geography, probably, to get them headed in the right direction and all, but it'd be workable.


Deena - Mar 20, 2003 10:49:45 pm PST #2504 of 9843
How are you me? You need to stop that. Only I can be me. ~Kara

Thanks moonlit, thanks billytea.. ya'll are awesome. I've ordered books from my library connection. I just needed a place to start.


Angus G - Mar 20, 2003 10:50:25 pm PST #2505 of 9843
Roguish Laird

But the defence forces still explicitly derive their symbolic legitimacy from the monarchy John--ie Royal Australian Navy and Air Force (and Army? I'm not sure).

And with that, I'm off to an anti-war rally even though it's just started pelting with rain. I expect to return to loquacious tributes to my selfless dedication to the cause.