Mal: Hell, this job I would pull for free. Zoe: Can I have your share? Mal: No. Zoe: If you die, can I have your share? Mal: Yes.

'The Train Job'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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evil jimi - Feb 02, 2003 9:24:47 pm PST #1623 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Zoe, this thread was started as a haven for those without the latest episodes, back in the dark ages when there was only one Buffista thread on WX.

Min ... the origins of this thread go back to Table Talk. It used the word "Unamerican" back then and should always have that word somewhere in the title.

To be blunt, if someone has a problem with the word, they should go elsewhere.

Just to tie this back into the thread topic, in 1906 the movie The Story of the Kelly Gang opened in Melbourne. This was perhaps the first narrative film of any significant length in the world.

billytea ... it's my understanding that the first "narrative film of any significant length" pre-dates that by around 10 years. Moreover, it was in "colour" no less. The Salvation Army in Australia created a movie about the bible some time in the late 1890s.

But the McDonald's restaurant was started by people named McDonald. They didn't just grab the name; it was theirs.

This is only half-true. The brothers (name escapes me) who started what we know as "McDonald's" bought the hamburger joint from the original owners. They kept the name and started expanding the number of "restaurants" using the moniker.


Caroma - Feb 02, 2003 9:28:38 pm PST #1624 of 9843
Hello! I must be going.

Jimi, it was Ray Kroc.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 9:29:27 pm PST #1625 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

The brothers (name escapes me) who started what we know as "McDonald's" bought the hamburger joint from the original owners. They kept the name and started expanding the number of "restaurants" using the moniker.

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. The McDonald brothers started it, then Ray Kroc expanded it. ( [link] )


Typo Boy - Feb 02, 2003 9:30:30 pm PST #1626 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Little known fact I read in LA times back when I lived in LA. Somewhere in a small town, there is a hamburger joint name McDonalds that has nothing to do witht the chain. Since it started before the chain, there is nothing the chain can do about it. Occasionally, the legal department of the corporate giant does send a letter to remind them they have no right to open a second resteraunt with that name. The non-chain McDonalds Hamburger joint owners laugh because they have no intention of expanding, in any case.


bon bon - Feb 02, 2003 9:34:12 pm PST #1627 of 9843
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Typo, if you didn't mean to joke about the logic, then I'm not insulted-- but that is the law. Limiting a mark to one or two things makes it more protectable than trying to save for yourself six or seven marking things.

Think of it this way: what is a can of soda with a red and white outside? It's a Coke. The soda is not red & white. The colors don't suggest soda the same way green and yellow suggests lemon-lime. If you saw another can of soda with a red & white exterior, would you assume it was anything other than a Coke? This is all by way of saying color, by itself, can be distinctive.


evil jimi - Feb 02, 2003 9:34:19 pm PST #1628 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around.

well, I am, generally speaking, arse about face on most things ... but the meaning was there, sort of...

Ray Kroc

I don't care how it's supposed to be pronounced because I'm going to pronounce it to rhyme with "crock" as in what their "hamburgers" are and presumably always have been. Give me a Hungry Jack's (Burger King to you merkins) Whopper any day. :)


billytea - Feb 02, 2003 9:36:20 pm PST #1629 of 9843
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

billytea ... it's my understanding that the first "narrative film of any significant length" pre-dates that by around 10 years. Moreover, it was in "colour" no less. The Salvation Army in Australia created a movie about the bible some time in the late 1890s.

More about the Salvos' early film work here. It appears the work in question wsa Soldiers of the Cross, first airing in 1900. However, it appears to have been more an illustrated lecture than a film; it consisted of a number of separate 90-second films augmented with slides. Still a great achievement.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 9:36:28 pm PST #1630 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Didn't Coca Cola trademark the shape of their bottle?

Honestly, green and yellow petrol company = BP to me. I can see why that's a defensible position.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 9:38:07 pm PST #1631 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Didn't Coca Cola trademark the shape of their bottle?

I'm pretty sure they did. I remember reading somewhere that the bottle was designed so that it would be recognizable even if it was broken. (It didn't explain why this was a good thing, though. Yeah, I want the kind of soda that come in that broken bottle!)


brenda m - Feb 02, 2003 9:38:38 pm PST #1632 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I can't be the only one who's had scenes from Coming to America going through my head through this whole discussion?

[Movie where one of the supporting characters is in constant legal battles with McDonalds - he runs a restaurant called McDonnell's, featuring the Big Mc.]