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All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 7:48:52 pm PST #1577 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

my sources are hearsay and urban myth

For future reference -- hearsay and urban myth don't hold much water in an arena where you're quite likely to be debating with lawyers and proto-lawyers.

As for the J'can lawsuit:

The defending company, McDonald's Corporation Limited ("the Jamaican company") was formed in Jamaica in 1971. Since then a small restaurant called McDonalds which sells traditional Jamaican dishes in addition to fast food has been operating in Kingston. In 1994 McDonald's announced they intended to open restaurants in Jamaica for the first time. In September 1995, McDonald's opened their first restaurant in Montego Bay. A month later they served a Statement of Claim on the Jamaican company seeking an injunction to prevent them operating under its current name. The Jamaican company has responded by seeking an injunction preventing McDonald's opening any restaurant in Kingston under the name McDonald's.

On 5th July [1996], the Jamaican High Court granted an injunction banning McDonalds US from opening outlets in Kingston, Jamaica pending the full hearing of the action which is not expected to take place until 1998. McDonalds were also ordered to pay the Jamaican company's legal costs.

It was a brief stand against megacorporations, but it sure makes me giggle.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 7:50:40 pm PST #1578 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

For future references -- hearsay and urban myth don't hold much water in an arena where you're quite likely to be debating with lawyers and proto-lawyers.

If I were debating in an arena where an actual difference could be made then I'd make a greater effort.


Betsy HP - Feb 02, 2003 7:50:45 pm PST #1579 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

Do proto-lawyers wear silly hats so we can tell them apart?

God bless Jamaica. But I'm sure you'll tell me She already did.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 7:52:55 pm PST #1580 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If I were debating in an arena where an actual difference could be made then I'd make a greater effort.

Ouch. I think I've been dismissed.

God bless Jamaica. But I'm sure you'll tell me She already did.

Sometimes, it's the only explanation.


Burrell - Feb 02, 2003 7:53:56 pm PST #1581 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

No, truth is my sources are hearsay and urban myth.

It might be interesting to check Snopes. Thing is, I find the whole idea very believable.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 7:54:09 pm PST #1582 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Ouch. I think I've been dismissed

Not at all, but who here is going to rush to Scotland's defence?

Edit: I mean, it matters a lot to me, as I guess you can tell, but I wouldn't expect to convince the rest of the world/Buffistas that it is all life and death for them.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 7:55:23 pm PST #1583 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

OK, I've also found one cite of a man named Ronald McDonald threatening to sue McDonald's because "use of the name Ronald McDonald for the clown used by the company to entertain children was an insult to the Scottish clan system." He states that McDonald's is saying that people named McDonald can't use the name, but I can't find any actual cases of that. I'd assume that someone setting up a new fast food restaurant would want to use a name other than McDonald's, so that people would know that they were a new, local, different company, and not the mediocre international chain.


Betsy HP - Feb 02, 2003 7:55:49 pm PST #1584 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

What I heard ita to be saying, and what in any case I believe to be the case, is if you want to persuade Buffistas of the rightness of your cause, you'd better show up with solid sources. You won't change many minds with "hearsay and urban legend".


brenda m - Feb 02, 2003 7:56:58 pm PST #1585 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I have some recollection of the case Zoe mentions, but I can't recall the outcome or find much reference to it. I don't have access to Lexis here, that might get better results.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 7:57:00 pm PST #1586 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

I mean, it matters a lot to me, as I guess you can tell, but I wouldn't expect to convince the rest of the world/Buffistas that it is all life and death for them.