And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

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Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 7:57:00 pm PST #1586 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

I mean, it matters a lot to me, as I guess you can tell, but I wouldn't expect to convince the rest of the world/Buffistas that it is all life and death for them.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 7:58:21 pm PST #1587 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What Betsy said -- it sounded to me like you were your audience wasn't worth being prepared for.

Me, I'm terrified of not fact checking before talking to these folks.

I don't want them to make me cry, or anything.


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 7:59:20 pm PST #1588 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I have some recollection of the case Zoe mentions, but I can't recall the outcome or find much reference to it.

Snopes has nothing. The closest I could find through googling, including mcspotlight.org, was the McMunchie case.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 7:59:38 pm PST #1589 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

What Betsy said -- it sounded to me like you were your audience wasn't worth being prepared for.

My apologies ita.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 8:00:55 pm PST #1590 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Oral culture?


Typo Boy - Feb 02, 2003 8:02:48 pm PST #1591 of 9843
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Zoe, people in Brazil were enraged. But I don't think it was only a matter of national idenity but of unfairness. In other words I think it is primarily unfairness rather than national identity that causes the outrage.

The link below includes the Brazilian flag..

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The link below includes the BP logo.

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I chose these links because the logos are both small, thus as similar as they are likely to get. In larger sizes they differences are much more obvious. Now is the comparison above really a Ray's Pizza/Ray's orginial case? I mean do they look that bloody similar that you are likely to be confused? Similar color - very different shape. And the Brazilian center is blue vs white for BP. Of course the fact that it is the national flag adds a bit to the feeling of outrage.

[Edited because of posting Brazilian flag twice instead of flag and logo.]


Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 8:03:07 pm PST #1592 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Have there been protests or anything in Scotland when new McDonald's restaurants opened? I vaguely recalled the McMunchies case, but until today, I'd never heard anything more than generalized grumbling over the "big corporation stole our name" issue.


P.M. Marc - Feb 02, 2003 8:04:12 pm PST #1593 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

To be honest, I see that combination and think BP.

t shrug

YKneeJerkMV.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 8:07:24 pm PST #1594 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I see the BP combo and I think J'ca, Australia and Brazil and then BP. I find the green/yellow combination very very evocative. But I'm way used to confusing it by now.


Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 8:08:25 pm PST #1595 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein

Have there been protests or anything in Scotland when new McDonald's restaurants opened? I vaguely recalled the McMunchies case, but until today, I'd never heard anything more than generalized grumbling over the "big corporation stole our name" issue.

No nothing so much just a growing feeling of resentment, it might dissapate. People here are feeling less subjugated and more confident since the return of democracy -I think- so are maybe looking less for things to take it out on. I'd be interested to know what MacDonalds accounts look like over the past few years because I think I heard a news story that they are having to close down outlets, people are less interested in eating there these days.