Zoe, not all the un-Americans are European so that the mythology and language wouldn't have derived from them either.
I'm sorry, dad. You know I would never have tried to save River's life if I had known there was a dinner party at risk.
Simon ,'Safe'
All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American
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sumi - Feb 02, 2003 5:41:19 pm PST #1419 of 9843
Art Crawl!!!
Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 5:42:34 pm PST #1420 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
Zoe, I'm sorry I'm being a cow here, but I really don't agree with you.
I know. I am not saying that this is the message you ARE sending, just what the words are saying. It was a snarky comment by Anya, a wonderfully written, brilliantly delivered comment but still a snarky one.
Betsy HP - Feb 02, 2003 5:43:14 pm PST #1421 of 9843
If I only had a brain...
Buffistas are all about the snark, Zoe. Seriously. That's our unifying value.
Okay, snark and politeness.
Okay, snark, politeness, and cheekbones.
Penny B. - Feb 02, 2003 5:44:29 pm PST #1422 of 9843
Nobody
Our four greatest assets are. . .
Also, wrod on the mention that not all Un-Americans are Europeans.
Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 5:44:47 pm PST #1423 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
I'm no marketing expert and I don't want to launch a huge campaign. The matter bugged me so I raised it.
Hil R. - Feb 02, 2003 5:45:42 pm PST #1424 of 9843
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I didn't see the comment, as Anya said it, as snarky at all. In her mind, it made perfect sense, and she was just stating a fact. Then, when we were looking for a new thread title, and we were using the word "Un-American" already, it seemed perfect and took on some irony in our context. (And yes, I know that that's not quite the proper definition of "irony," but it's a lot closer than Alanis Morisette's was, so I'm leaving it.)
Zoe Finch - Feb 02, 2003 5:46:27 pm PST #1425 of 9843
Gradh tu fhein
Also, wrod on the mention that not all Un-Americans are Europeans.
Yes, also not all the mythology is European in origin, just most of it, so the hey! that's my culture! isn't 100% justified.
Penny B. - Feb 02, 2003 5:47:49 pm PST #1426 of 9843
Nobody
Not quite on topic, but this discussion reminds me of something a co-worker said to me when I was teaching in Japan: "Here, the vampire is always a foreigner."
brenda m - Feb 02, 2003 5:48:28 pm PST #1427 of 9843
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
It was a snarky comment by Anya, a wonderfully written, brilliantly delivered comment but still a snarky one.
Actually, she meant it quite sincerely. Being "unamerican" by Anya's definition isn't something I'd take offense at.
§ ita § - Feb 02, 2003 5:51:50 pm PST #1428 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Zoe, what everyone said. There's a lot of snark here. It's probably in the etiquette guide. It'll take a seismic shift to make it go away.