I'm no marketing expert and I don't want to launch a huge campaign. The matter bugged me so I raised it.

I didn't see the comment, as Anya said it, as snarky at all. In her mind, it made perfect sense, and she was just stating a fact. Then, when we were looking for a new thread title, and we were using the word "Un-American" already, it seemed perfect and took on some irony in our context. (And yes, I know that that's not quite the proper definition of "irony," but it's a lot closer than Alanis Morisette's was, so I'm leaving it.)

Also, wrod on the mention that not all Un-Americans are Europeans.

Yes, also not all the mythology is European in origin, just most of it, so the hey! that's my culture! isn't 100% justified.

Not quite on topic, but this discussion reminds me of something a co-worker said to me when I was teaching in Japan: "Here, the vampire is always a foreigner."

It was a snarky comment by Anya, a wonderfully written, brilliantly delivered comment but still a snarky one.

Actually, she meant it quite sincerely. Being "unamerican" by Anya's definition isn't something I'd take offense at.

Zoe, what everyone said. There's a lot of snark here. It's probably in the etiquette guide. It'll take a seismic shift to make it go away.

Yes, based on a reworking of mythology which is 100% European.

Um. Not quite sure where you're going with this. If you mean the vampire thing, it's my understanding that there are vampire myths in many non-European cultures. The pulp horror genre from which BtVS draws so much is both European and US-based - certainly Hammer House of Horror produced many classics, but there are plenty of cheesy US schlock horror movies and comics from the same era. There's also plenty of pulp genre stuff from other non-European sources.

Regardless - the show itself is American. It's also crammed with irony and wordplay, and lots of the cultural references are American. Including, it seems, the resonances of the term "UnAmerican" and the suffix "-ista".

I certainly don't dispute your right to raise the subject, Zoe. I just don't share your perspective on it. But I'm tired and grumpy and bag-like, so I may not have Captain Logic steering my tugboat right now.

I think the UnAmerican thread is relatively quiet right now (well, until today) because new episodes are not currently showing yet, right? At least, I'm pretty sure they're not in the UK or Australia, which are the biggest UnAmerican demographic here, and poor Israel seems never to get anything. No new episodes = pretty quiet. Well, quiet for Buffistas.

Yes, based on a reworking of mythology which is 100% European.

Really not going anywhere, honest. Feirce and fiery protection of ancient myths is something of a Celtic character trait I guess, pretty much has to be cos we're still here.

May I suggest, though, that saying vampire myths are 100% European is like saying that Christianity is 100% Middle Eastern? I mean, it did originate there, but it has become somewhat more universal as time goes by. And, of course, American culture derives from many sources, and one of the major ones is European.