You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


All Ogle, No Cash -- It's Not Just Annoying, It's Un-American

Discussion of episodes currently airing in Un-American locations (anything that's aired in Australia is fair game), as well as anything else the Un-Americans feel like talking about or we feel like asking them. Please use the show discussion threads for any current-season discussion.

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Fiona - Jan 13, 2003 12:13:12 pm PST #1304 of 9843

Well, the spoiler rule - here and in Previously - is that the Australians are the marker of what is spoilery or not. So I guess it's really up to them. I'm not bothered yet because I've seen the first few eps, though at this rate you'll have caught up with me fairly soon (especially as my second batch of tapes has so far failed to arrive....). In which case, I'd prefer not to have whitefonted discussion here, but that's just me.


Fay - Jan 13, 2003 2:11:19 pm PST #1305 of 9843
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Ant'N'Dec slash? You sick, sick puppy.

There's nothing sick about noticing the slashiness of Ant'n'Dec. They're slashier than anything else I can think of. Except the Clex.

But I still haven't read any of it. Go me.


Angus G - Jan 13, 2003 7:54:04 pm PST #1306 of 9843
Roguish Laird

I'm OK with whitefonted discussion here.


evil jimi - Jan 13, 2003 8:26:52 pm PST #1307 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

I second Angus' "OK". It will be at least another month -- but probably closer to a couple -- before Australia starts getting Buffy season 7. Any discussion of previous seasons is welcomed, though. :)

Speaking of which, the Jossentaries for "Hush" and "Restless" are both fascinating listens. Not as funny as "Innocence" but equally entertaining and informative.

Doug Petrie and Jane Espenson seem to have taken note of the quality/substance of Joss' commentaries and hence their commentaries for "This Year's Girl" and "Superstar" respectively, are well worth a listen.


Angus G - Jan 13, 2003 8:28:46 pm PST #1308 of 9843
Roguish Laird

Nice work taunting the DVD-deprived Americans, jimi!


§ ita § - Jan 13, 2003 8:32:56 pm PST #1309 of 9843
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

There's a big "what does a soul mean?" debate happening in the Buffy thread right now.

I suspect watching Buffy and Angel on the American schedule, having a region-free DVD and using BitTorrent to grab Farscape eps ahead of time should be a big "Evil now!" marker, shouldn't it?


Burrell - Jan 13, 2003 8:34:14 pm PST #1310 of 9843
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

Not if you're generous with the sharing of the Farscape tapes. IJS.


evil jimi - Jan 13, 2003 9:24:47 pm PST #1311 of 9843
Lurching from one disaster to the next.

Nice work taunting the DVD-deprived Americans, jimi!

Oh my, how insensitive of me. Call me "Oz" and send in the Mistress of Pain to spank me.


Betsy HP - Jan 14, 2003 12:31:40 pm PST #1312 of 9843
If I only had a brain...

I need some vocabulary. What's the technical term to describe intense same-sex emotional relationships that are not explicitly physical? Doesn't "homoerotic" contain some idea that the people involved are physically intimate, or at least thinking about it?

I'm thinking of the classical Victorian relationships that, as far as we know, stayed subliminal. Housman. Rhodes. That sort of thing. People all of whose emotionally passionate relationships were with the same sex, but who thought of themselves merely as confirmed old bachelors/spinsters.


P.M. Marc - Jan 14, 2003 12:32:18 pm PST #1313 of 9843
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

homoaffectionality is the term.