Fred: So you don't worry that it's possible for someone to send out a biological or electronic trigger that effectively overrides your own sense of ideals and values and replaces them with an alternative coercive agenda that reduces you to a mindless meat puppet? Shopkeeper: Wow. People used to think that I was paranoid.

'Time Bomb'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 22, 2012 12:04:05 am PDT #4188 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

From way back in the OHotMU days, the armor was supposed to multiply the user's strength rather than substitute for it, so there was feedback and making a greater effort would generate a greater result.

Is current Superman still stronger? I know Silver Age definitely was.

I don't know about the DCnU version, but the post-Crisis version was able to pick up a luxury liner during his initial Man of Steel miniseries. That's orders of magnitude beyond anything I've seen the Hulk do.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2012 6:07:56 am PDT #4189 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's just because he doesn't want to.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2012 7:51:48 am PDT #4190 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

That's just because he doesn't want to.

Or he's never been luxury liner angry.


Tom Scola - Jun 22, 2012 8:18:39 am PDT #4191 of 5059
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

In Secret Wars I, he lifted a mountain.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2012 8:29:20 am PDT #4192 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Yeah, but can Hulk punch a hole in the space time continuum?


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2012 8:30:45 am PDT #4193 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

With Banner past puberty, I don't think he can generate that level of unadulterated pique.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2012 8:38:13 am PDT #4194 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Teen Hulk is strongest one there is! He just wanted a Pepsi, but they wouldn't give it to him!


Tom Scola - Jun 22, 2012 8:47:11 am PDT #4195 of 5059
Mr. Scola’s wardrobe by Botany 500

Marvel Strength Chart.

Shouldn’t She-Hulk be in the next higher class? And taller?


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 22, 2012 8:49:53 am PDT #4196 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

That was done back when she was in her ripped-hospital-gown-can-lift-40-tons phase. These days she's about as strong as Ben Grimm.


§ ita § - Jun 22, 2012 9:02:24 am PDT #4197 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Did anyone read those speech bubbles before they published it?