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'Beneath You'


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P.M. Marc - Apr 04, 2011 10:13:05 am PDT #3415 of 5059
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Sir Edmund Dorrance, aka King Snake, is a British native who first distinguished himself in the Royal Artillery (a corps of the British Army). He and some friends then became mercenaries, offering their professional expertise to various anti-communist rebels, and made considerable money in doing so. While in Santa Prisca working with local rebels, his camp was taken by surprise by government commandos and Edmund blinded by gunfire. He fled the country, leaving for dead a female rebel that he had slept with. The woman was actually alive and pregnant with Edmund's son. Both she and her child were imprisoned for Edmund's crimes against the Santa Prisca government, with the child growing up in prison to become the villainous Bane.

So the theory is that he's half-Hispanic, but I'll point out that Santa Prisca (which seems to map loosely to Cuba in its fictional history) is strongly Spanish influenced, also that Hispanic is not the same as not white. As any of our Hispanic, but white, Buffistas can attest.

I'd be bothered if, say it were Renee Montoya being played by some random blonde starlet, but this? Not so much.


Steph L. - Apr 04, 2011 10:13:21 am PDT #3416 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

ISTR comics with Bane with his mask off, and he was white.

I feel like he's of Russian descent, although that might not be true.

t edit x-post with Plei, who comes through with the info!


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 04, 2011 10:16:26 am PDT #3417 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

His tattoos from Bronson remind them of Bombshell Mcgee?


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2011 10:18:40 am PDT #3418 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I am unutterably pissed at people who say that Hispanic != white, and the idea that Bane can't be played by a white guy because he was born in a Latin country strikes me as wanting a reason to be upset at Hollywood. There are plenty of good reasons. Choose your battles.

Also, travel more, or at least look at pictures. There's no picture of Bane I've seen that Hardy can't pull off, unless you're talking insane bulk. But that's comics for you.


P.M. Marc - Apr 04, 2011 10:19:20 am PDT #3419 of 5059
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yeah, there was this whole period in Gotham Knights where Bane thought that Thomas Wayne was his father, and it got pretty absurd. So it stuck in my mind and I knew Wikipedia or one of the other sites would have a write up.


P.M. Marc - Apr 04, 2011 10:20:34 am PDT #3420 of 5059
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I am unutterably pissed at people who say that Hispanic != white, and the idea that Bane can't be played by a white guy because he was born in a Latin country strikes me as wanting a reason to be upset at Hollywood. There are plenty of good reasons. Choose your battles.
Akira, for ex.


Daisy Jane - Apr 04, 2011 10:52:17 am PDT #3421 of 5059
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

River vs. Buffy [link]


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2011 10:54:16 am PDT #3422 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If that site reflects anything like IO9 does, River will win. She apparently trumps all.


Daisy Jane - Apr 04, 2011 11:03:52 am PDT #3423 of 5059
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

She's winning so far, but they're pretty neck & neck. I...can't bring myself to get worked up about it either way.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2011 11:14:11 am PDT #3424 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love the degree of insanity that Joss has frothed up when it comes to Browncoats, and I love how much people hate that.

It's win win for me.

However, I think one-on-one I'd give the edge to River, just because she's designed that way. Team on team, I'd give the edge to Buffy, because team is her strength.

Question is, can they both beat an integrated Echo?