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Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

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Daisy Jane - Apr 04, 2011 11:03:52 am PDT #3423 of 5059
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

She's winning so far, but they're pretty neck & neck. I...can't bring myself to get worked up about it either way.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2011 11:14:11 am PDT #3424 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I love the degree of insanity that Joss has frothed up when it comes to Browncoats, and I love how much people hate that.

It's win win for me.

However, I think one-on-one I'd give the edge to River, just because she's designed that way. Team on team, I'd give the edge to Buffy, because team is her strength.

Question is, can they both beat an integrated Echo?


Laga - Apr 04, 2011 11:19:13 am PDT #3425 of 5059
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I give the edge to River on account of I think she has something like spider-sense. Does integrated Echo have psychic powers?


DavidS - Apr 04, 2011 11:19:37 am PDT #3426 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Question is, can they both beat an integrated Echo?

This is such nerd-bait, but Buffy's the strongest by far.

Echo has the advantage of calling on a variety of skill sets, so she's probably the most adaptable.

River has the big edge in sense things and anticipate patterns and movement. Which, frankly, I think would be the most important if you dropped all of them off in a squash court with hunting knives and only one could leave.

If they were dropped in the wild, or behind enemy lines in a city then Echo would be the clear winner.

No weapons and a closed space? Buffy.


Daisy Jane - Apr 04, 2011 11:21:37 am PDT #3427 of 5059
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

I give the edge to River on account of I think she has something like spider-sense.

So does Buffy, but I gave her the edge because of the healy plus actual powers thing. Her punches are just gonna land harder when they land, and she could take being punched by other superstrong bad guys.


§ ita § - Apr 04, 2011 11:24:08 am PDT #3428 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I know Buffy has physical powers, but River did take out that room of Reavers. I just think she's written as having more of an edge than everyone else. Handwavium infinitum.


Daisy Jane - Apr 04, 2011 11:25:38 am PDT #3429 of 5059
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Eh, Buffy's taken on a room full of demons. But, I see your point.


quester - Apr 04, 2011 12:20:59 pm PDT #3430 of 5059
Danger is my middle name, only I spell it R. u. t. h. - Tina Belcher.

Question is, can they both beat an integrated Echo?

Oooo, interesting!

But, frankly I don't see them fighting for long, if at all. I think they'd all pause and cock their heads at each other and decide to not fight but do girly stuff instead.

As for Buffy's healing power, they are not instantaneous, so might not be all that helpful mid-fight.


Daisy Jane - Apr 04, 2011 12:44:49 pm PDT #3431 of 5059
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

As for Buffy's healing power, they are not instantaneous, so might not be all that helpful mid-fight.

But being able to take a punch or a kick better would be. But ita's right. We never see her get her ass kicked and we see her kicking all kinds of ass, so she looks more invulnerable.


Frankenbuddha - Apr 05, 2011 11:17:40 am PDT #3432 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

River has the big edge in sense things and anticipate patterns and movement. Which, frankly, I think would be the most important if you dropped all of them off in a squash court with hunting knives and only one could leave.

Doesn't Nutty always win on a squash court?