I seen you without your clothes on before. Never thought I'd see you naked.

Mal ,'Trash'


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sumi - Apr 02, 2012 11:33:40 am PDT #4283 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

It will be interesting to see how the tv show portrays the journeys of the Lannisters. They are complicated and possibly all more than a little crazy by our standards.


Kalshane - Apr 02, 2012 12:17:06 pm PDT #4284 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think sumi and I are on the same page regarding the characters.

Jamie grows into a more sympathetic character for me over the course of the books. (there's a point in book 2 or 3 where I said to myself "damn it, I can't hate him anymore!") Cersei never does.

I agree with Amy that the one conversation with Robert and Cersei does wonders for both their characters on the show. Also her conversation with Caitlyn about her first born.


le nubian - Apr 02, 2012 1:37:06 pm PDT #4285 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm not sure I will forgive Jamie or Cersei anytime soon (I have not read the books). I find them both really odious.

and I want Joffrey to DIAF.

Hot.


sumi - Apr 03, 2012 7:09:24 am PDT #4286 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Fashion recap of Game of Thrones trends.


-t - Apr 03, 2012 7:17:00 am PDT #4287 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's pretty good. I like the mockingbird pin reference. And

What's more impressive than a fur-covered man-bag? An actual wolf.


JoeCrow - Apr 03, 2012 9:47:00 am PDT #4288 of 7329
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

In that case, why does he get more of a pass than Cersei or Jamie?

For me, it's because what he learned from that whole horrific episode (and I'd question the "willingly participating" bit) is that his father is an evil shitbag, that no-one else in his family will protect him from his father, and that if he wants to be anything but a tool in his fathers hands he'll have to be twice as clever and careful as everybody else in the world. Unfortunately, he's also learned that pretty much everybody else in the world is an evil shitbag of one sort or another.

What Jaime and Cersei have learned from their own horrific episodes is that being an evil shitbag is awesome.


Jessica - Apr 03, 2012 10:19:07 am PDT #4289 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There's no way to continue this conversation without TV spoilers, so I'll just say I disagree. I think Tyrion gets a pass with fans because fantasy readers prefer the unpopular smart kid to the prom queen/football captain. But I don't think you can look honestly at the actions of any of them and say Tyrion is objectively a better or nicer person than his siblings.


le nubian - Apr 03, 2012 10:48:32 am PDT #4290 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So far Tyrion has been okay but I acknowledge bad shit is coming. Like Winter.


sumi - Apr 03, 2012 10:52:25 am PDT #4291 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Official GoT tumblr


Kalshane - Apr 03, 2012 4:27:47 pm PDT #4292 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't know that Tyrion gets a pass (and you're right, this is tough to talk about without getting into spoilers) but unlike the rest of his family, he spends a good amount of time trying to do the right thing (and mostly getting shit on for it).

Of course, he also does some pretty horrible things as well. Though some of that stems from the afforementioned being shit on (not that it makes it okay).