Mal: Well said. Wasn't that well said, Zoe? Zoe: Had a kind poetry to it, sir.

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sumi - Apr 03, 2012 10:52:25 am PDT #4291 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

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Kalshane - Apr 03, 2012 4:27:47 pm PDT #4292 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't know that Tyrion gets a pass (and you're right, this is tough to talk about without getting into spoilers) but unlike the rest of his family, he spends a good amount of time trying to do the right thing (and mostly getting shit on for it).

Of course, he also does some pretty horrible things as well. Though some of that stems from the afforementioned being shit on (not that it makes it okay).


sumi - Apr 03, 2012 5:45:55 pm PDT #4293 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, the Lannister family are all warped.


Theodosia - Apr 03, 2012 7:43:44 pm PDT #4294 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You've got to take in to account that Jaime jumped at the chance to get out from under his father by getting inducted into the Kingsguard when he was just 17 -- and like Jon and the Night's Watch, that's a vow for life (and celibacy). But even that couldn't get him away from his family's orbit, what with his father maneuvering to get his sister married to Robert and taking up residence in Kingslanding.

And even when he manned up and did the right thing -- Aerys needed assassinating, the sooner the better -- he's paying for it for the rest of his life. "Kingslayer" is not an affectionate nickname, not in this culture, even if the Lannisters ended up on the winning side. Jaime's moral center has burned out long ago in a massive puff of PTSD and snuffed honor.

As for this episode -- I'm really pleased with how things are off to a good start, and that the pieces are in play on the board in a big way. I think we covered like a quarter of the book, which leaves us to get to the Good Parts sooner.


Jon B. - Apr 06, 2012 5:52:44 pm PDT #4295 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

As someone who has not read the books, I was very confused by the end of the episode. Joffrey commanded that all babies(?) all bastard babies(?) all boys(?) be killed because any of them could be his half brother? Who was the kid at the end with the bull helmet? Had we seen him before?


sumi - Apr 06, 2012 5:54:52 pm PDT #4296 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, he was somebody that Jon Arryn had investigated and Ned followed up on - one of Robert's bastards.

ETA: He was first in episode 4 of season 1.


Kalshane - Apr 06, 2012 6:01:07 pm PDT #4297 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

The blacksmith's apprentice.


tiggy - Apr 06, 2012 6:08:21 pm PDT #4298 of 7329
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

also one of the best characters from the UK show, Skins.


Jon B. - Apr 06, 2012 6:39:52 pm PDT #4299 of 7329
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

OK, I do remember the blacksmith's apprentice. What about the first half of my questions?


-t - Apr 06, 2012 6:42:41 pm PDT #4300 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I think Cersei is killing all Robert's bastards because Joffrey reminded her they exist and are a threat. Robert was not discreet, so they can be pretty precise.