Dawn: I think a date should be in a real fancy restaurant, then champagne at a night club with a floor show, then ballroom dancing. Joyce: Unfortunately, we're not dating in a movie from the thirties.

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le nubian - Apr 02, 2012 1:37:06 pm PDT #4285 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I'm not sure I will forgive Jamie or Cersei anytime soon (I have not read the books). I find them both really odious.

and I want Joffrey to DIAF.

Hot.


sumi - Apr 03, 2012 7:09:24 am PDT #4286 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Fashion recap of Game of Thrones trends.


-t - Apr 03, 2012 7:17:00 am PDT #4287 of 7329
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

That's pretty good. I like the mockingbird pin reference. And

What's more impressive than a fur-covered man-bag? An actual wolf.


JoeCrow - Apr 03, 2012 9:47:00 am PDT #4288 of 7329
"what's left when you take biology and sociology out of the picture?" "An autistic hermaphodite." -Allyson

In that case, why does he get more of a pass than Cersei or Jamie?

For me, it's because what he learned from that whole horrific episode (and I'd question the "willingly participating" bit) is that his father is an evil shitbag, that no-one else in his family will protect him from his father, and that if he wants to be anything but a tool in his fathers hands he'll have to be twice as clever and careful as everybody else in the world. Unfortunately, he's also learned that pretty much everybody else in the world is an evil shitbag of one sort or another.

What Jaime and Cersei have learned from their own horrific episodes is that being an evil shitbag is awesome.


Jessica - Apr 03, 2012 10:19:07 am PDT #4289 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

There's no way to continue this conversation without TV spoilers, so I'll just say I disagree. I think Tyrion gets a pass with fans because fantasy readers prefer the unpopular smart kid to the prom queen/football captain. But I don't think you can look honestly at the actions of any of them and say Tyrion is objectively a better or nicer person than his siblings.


le nubian - Apr 03, 2012 10:48:32 am PDT #4290 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

So far Tyrion has been okay but I acknowledge bad shit is coming. Like Winter.


sumi - Apr 03, 2012 10:52:25 am PDT #4291 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Official GoT tumblr


Kalshane - Apr 03, 2012 4:27:47 pm PDT #4292 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't know that Tyrion gets a pass (and you're right, this is tough to talk about without getting into spoilers) but unlike the rest of his family, he spends a good amount of time trying to do the right thing (and mostly getting shit on for it).

Of course, he also does some pretty horrible things as well. Though some of that stems from the afforementioned being shit on (not that it makes it okay).


sumi - Apr 03, 2012 5:45:55 pm PDT #4293 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, the Lannister family are all warped.


Theodosia - Apr 03, 2012 7:43:44 pm PDT #4294 of 7329
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

You've got to take in to account that Jaime jumped at the chance to get out from under his father by getting inducted into the Kingsguard when he was just 17 -- and like Jon and the Night's Watch, that's a vow for life (and celibacy). But even that couldn't get him away from his family's orbit, what with his father maneuvering to get his sister married to Robert and taking up residence in Kingslanding.

And even when he manned up and did the right thing -- Aerys needed assassinating, the sooner the better -- he's paying for it for the rest of his life. "Kingslayer" is not an affectionate nickname, not in this culture, even if the Lannisters ended up on the winning side. Jaime's moral center has burned out long ago in a massive puff of PTSD and snuffed honor.

As for this episode -- I'm really pleased with how things are off to a good start, and that the pieces are in play on the board in a big way. I think we covered like a quarter of the book, which leaves us to get to the Good Parts sooner.