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Jessica - Apr 02, 2012 6:09:50 am PDT #4268 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Tyrion, Jon, Daenerys, and Arya

These are the fan book favorites too, as far as I'm aware.

Peter Dinklage is playing Tyrion the way Alan Rickman played Snape - wonderfully, of course, but so charismatically that you forget how much of a genuine asshole that character was in the books.


Kalshane - Apr 02, 2012 6:15:43 am PDT #4269 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

They've made Cersei much more sympathetic than in the books (where she's mostly Stupid Evil) but otherwise I think the characterization is pretty spot-on.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 6:16:41 am PDT #4270 of 7329
Because books.

What is there to hate about Daenerys? In the book or the show?

I don't get a sense of Tyrion as an asshole in the book, Jessica -- he's a little blunt, often rude, but he's smarter than almost everyone else, and he has a sense of right and wrong that his sister, for one, does not.

Cersei seems pretty loathsome all around to me.


le nubian - Apr 02, 2012 6:17:50 am PDT #4271 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I understand Cersei's motives, but she is really hateable.


Jessica - Apr 02, 2012 6:17:57 am PDT #4272 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think TV!Cersei is more sympathetic because we've gotten inside her head so much sooner. I don't think she's a POV character in the books until #3 and by then our view of her is so skewed by how she's perceived by others that it's hard to shake off.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 6:21:07 am PDT #4273 of 7329
Because books.

I found the one conversation between Robert and Cersei made them both more sympathetic, although the whole thing was sad.

And I probably did feel a little bad for her last night, when her sense of her own power was crushed by a couple of angry words from Joffrey.


sumi - Apr 02, 2012 9:44:04 am PDT #4274 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I think that person is wrong-headed.

Tyrion is easily one of the more interesting characters in the books. (Jaime becomes that way too.)

I pretty much can't stand Cersei - even when she is brought low.

Robb - is much more there in the show than in the books.

Sansa is more sympathetic on the show. (Being in her head does her no favors.)


Jessica - Apr 02, 2012 9:59:31 am PDT #4275 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

he's a little blunt, often rude, but he's smarter than almost everyone else, and he has a sense of right and wrong that his sister, for one, does not.

Willingly participating in a gang rape of his own wife does not, to me, indicate a strong moral compass.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 10:05:55 am PDT #4276 of 7329
Because books.

Willingly participating in a gang rape of his own wife does not, to me, indicate a strong moral compass.

Yeah, I forgot about that. But in the present he's one of the only people (alive) I would trust to do the right thing, at least in King's Landing.


sumi - Apr 02, 2012 10:12:43 am PDT #4277 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I have to say, despite being an adult by Westeros standards - he was actually very young and in a family that is certainly psychologically abusive. How do we compute that?