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Kalshane - Apr 02, 2012 6:15:43 am PDT #4269 of 7329
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

They've made Cersei much more sympathetic than in the books (where she's mostly Stupid Evil) but otherwise I think the characterization is pretty spot-on.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 6:16:41 am PDT #4270 of 7329
Because books.

What is there to hate about Daenerys? In the book or the show?

I don't get a sense of Tyrion as an asshole in the book, Jessica -- he's a little blunt, often rude, but he's smarter than almost everyone else, and he has a sense of right and wrong that his sister, for one, does not.

Cersei seems pretty loathsome all around to me.


le nubian - Apr 02, 2012 6:17:50 am PDT #4271 of 7329
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I understand Cersei's motives, but she is really hateable.


Jessica - Apr 02, 2012 6:17:57 am PDT #4272 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think TV!Cersei is more sympathetic because we've gotten inside her head so much sooner. I don't think she's a POV character in the books until #3 and by then our view of her is so skewed by how she's perceived by others that it's hard to shake off.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 6:21:07 am PDT #4273 of 7329
Because books.

I found the one conversation between Robert and Cersei made them both more sympathetic, although the whole thing was sad.

And I probably did feel a little bad for her last night, when her sense of her own power was crushed by a couple of angry words from Joffrey.


sumi - Apr 02, 2012 9:44:04 am PDT #4274 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I think that person is wrong-headed.

Tyrion is easily one of the more interesting characters in the books. (Jaime becomes that way too.)

I pretty much can't stand Cersei - even when she is brought low.

Robb - is much more there in the show than in the books.

Sansa is more sympathetic on the show. (Being in her head does her no favors.)


Jessica - Apr 02, 2012 9:59:31 am PDT #4275 of 7329
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

he's a little blunt, often rude, but he's smarter than almost everyone else, and he has a sense of right and wrong that his sister, for one, does not.

Willingly participating in a gang rape of his own wife does not, to me, indicate a strong moral compass.


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 10:05:55 am PDT #4276 of 7329
Because books.

Willingly participating in a gang rape of his own wife does not, to me, indicate a strong moral compass.

Yeah, I forgot about that. But in the present he's one of the only people (alive) I would trust to do the right thing, at least in King's Landing.


sumi - Apr 02, 2012 10:12:43 am PDT #4277 of 7329
Art Crawl!!!

I have to say, despite being an adult by Westeros standards - he was actually very young and in a family that is certainly psychologically abusive. How do we compute that?


Amy - Apr 02, 2012 10:15:09 am PDT #4278 of 7329
Because books.

I don't think the episode with his wife is completely clear cut, either, although it was ugly and obscene on every level.