Angel: He is dead. Technically, he's undead. It's a zombie. Connor: What's a zombie? Angel: It's an undead thing. Connor: Like you? Angel: No, zombies are slow-moving, dimwitted things that crave human flesh. Connor: Like you. Angel: No! It's different. Trust me.

'Destiny'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Mar 28, 2007 4:28:33 am PDT #8910 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's mildly spoilery - confirms some things about the finale and reveals some casting info about next season. Nothing that couldn't be posted in Spoilers Lite, I don't think.

Sometimes when he appears to have reservations about something, I get more of an impression of "Uh oh, I could get in trouble for this" than the glimmerings of what I would call a conscience.

Baltar is a master of rationalization. He knows that signing the death list was wrong, but he doesn't feel bad about doing it because he knows he resisted, which in his mind is the same as not signing it at all. Ditto unwittingly helping Six commit genocide on the Colonies back in the mini -- he didn't mean to do it, so he has nothing to feel guilt over. And I think that, more than anything, is what rubs people the wrong way about him - it's not that he's technically wrong about those situations, it's that a normal human being would feel guilty anyway, and he doesn't.


Topic!Cindy - Mar 28, 2007 4:28:37 am PDT #8911 of 10001
What is even happening?

I'm not going to spoil in my white font, but I'll qualify what type of information Moore gives away, so people can guess if they want to steer clear. Like sumi, I didn't think there were too many spoilers, but I'm not all that sensitive to the stuff a writer would be willing to reveal, and I know some people are.

* He puts to rest one topic for debate that some people have brought up. He confirms the mindset of a few key characters -- in fairly general terms. He discusses casting issues. He discusses a few issues that will be addressed in season four -- but not how they'll be addressed. He talks about the setting of the two-hour event that will air in the Fall. *

I admit that when presented with a 200-person death list, he said no. He's not without conscience, but it's a shallow lake. Sometimes when he appears to have reservations about something, I get more of an impression of "Uh oh, I could get in trouble for this" than the glimmerings of what I would call a conscience. Though it's possible that I've forgotten examples.

Wasn't Baltar kind of wracked with guilt, when he was first aboard the Cylon ship at the beginning of the season?


sumi - Mar 28, 2007 4:28:42 am PDT #8912 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I rewatched "Simon Says" and really enjoyed it. I know that enjoying "Simon Says" is unusual in the SPN fan community - but it was funny and had excellent arc-components.


P.M. Marc - Mar 28, 2007 4:41:12 am PDT #8913 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Really? Simon Says is pretty well thought of in LJ fandom.

It's not as good as Nightshifter, but it's pretty darn swell.

I re-watched "Tall Tales" with the gf and it was still very funny. Maybe not the OMG hilarity of the first viewing, but still entertaining.

Well, for Lee and Cass, it's more the OMG hilarity of the last viewing. Which, umm.

Jilli became Bobby.

And then we decided Pete was the Trickster.

And the valet guy wasn't sure we were safe to drive.


§ ita § - Mar 28, 2007 4:41:35 am PDT #8914 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I didn't think there were too many spoilers

For people that care there only has to be one.


Strega - Mar 28, 2007 4:44:10 am PDT #8915 of 10001

Oh wow, I totally disagree. Baltar spent the past year HOPING he was a Cylon because then he wouldn't have to feel guilty about all the things he's done. Yes, he rationalizes it all away, but people who don't think they've done anything wrong don't need to rationalize their behavior.


Jessica - Mar 28, 2007 4:51:15 am PDT #8916 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yes, he rationalizes it all away, but people who don't think they've done anything wrong don't need to rationalize their behavior.

Hm. I agree with this too. Curses.


Micole - Mar 28, 2007 4:57:32 am PDT #8917 of 10001
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

But (and I love him above all other TV royalty) his complete list of titles and honors reads: His Royal Highness The Prince Joss, Prince of Misdirect and Earl of Retcon, Duke of Dropped Threads, Baron of Changed Minds and Prince and Great Steward of Handwaving.

Cindy is still my favorite.


Strega - Mar 28, 2007 5:02:27 am PDT #8918 of 10001

Curses.

I win!

...neener.


Beverly - Mar 28, 2007 5:12:16 am PDT #8919 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Does anybody know if Life on Mars S2 will be run (eventually) on BBCA?