Simon: You're out of your mind. Early: That's between me and my mind.

'Objects In Space'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Topic!Cindy - Dec 16, 2006 8:17:31 am PST #4601 of 10001
What is even happening?

My beef with the Baltar-thinks-he-might-meet-the-Cylon-god thing is that we haven't seen enough of him this season for me to completely buy the transformation. Up until now, the only time we've ever seen him be even remotely open to having a spiritual side is when he thought he was about to be executed for treason, and even then he was mostly praying to the Six in his head. It's just not in his nature to believe that kind of woo.

Yeah, I can see that. There have been a few times He was into the woo, though. He has seemed to waffle between not believing in woo at all, and buying into it a little (although, definitely most of his time is spent on the non-woo side).

He was really caught up in Six's Baby prophecy in season 2 though, and I've interpreted the finding Hera (on New Caprica) as what has pushed him that way. When they were on Kobol (when he killed the Lt.) he was a little woo-inclined, too.

Mostly though, I'm just glad to see him do something other than the porn show. At first, I thought it was marvelous that he had this whatever-it-is with a Six that I didn't even know was real, but I got a little tired of it, probably around the time Starbuck walked into his lab on Galactica, and he had invisible Six bent over the table (season 1, or two -- I can't remember). And I get tired of him always being reminded how self-centered, and interested in self-preservation he is. I get it, already. Doesn't he have any other feelings.

Edited, because people were talking to me, and I made no sense in this post, at all. Hopefully, there's a little, now.


sumi - Dec 16, 2006 8:18:32 am PST #4602 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I like how Starbuck and Lee's ideas of what they should be doing about the affair are both totally in character. Starbuck always wants to bend the rules and some of that is what Lee finds attractive in her -- and Lee he always wants to play by the rules. So, it puts them in a ridiculous place but I do hope that Starbuck wasn't trying to maneuver Sam into a position where he might be killed. She knows his capabilities and he is exactly the person who should be leading the civilians.

I also think that Sam is right -- they should be using guerrilla tactics because the Cylons are by far the larger force.

As a character Anders improved incredibly this season -- because he was given stuff to do and he was good at it. End of last season, he wasn't doing much of anything. I find it hard to believe that he is okay with just hanging out on a ship somewhere not doing anything, you know?


Topic!Cindy - Dec 16, 2006 8:21:02 am PST #4603 of 10001
What is even happening?

Lords of Kobol, there's no hope for my earlier post. Sorry for the mess.


machall - Dec 16, 2006 9:31:57 pm PST #4604 of 10001
"Would you mind not farting while I'm saving the world?" - Doctor Who

You don't do an outsider episode until your main characters are pretty well-established.

Maybe the assumption is that the Doctor is well-established regardless of who is currently playing him. He has the full depth of the canon behind him. Rose is on her second season, so she'd also qualify.


WindSparrow - Dec 17, 2006 5:00:36 am PST #4605 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Maybe the assumption is that the Doctor is well-established regardless of who is currently playing him. He has the full depth of the canon behind him.

This is how I looked at it, especially seeing as DT's portrayal of the Doctor draws on so many aspects of previous characterizations. I suppose it might not work so well for those who have not seen much of the Old School Who, or if they had, were not yet completely won over by the New Who.


Jessica - Dec 17, 2006 6:54:15 am PST #4606 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Finally got around to Lost Room -- what a disappointing last act! I was really loving it up until the very end, and then it just kind of fizzled. After all that talk throughout the series about how using objects has a price, blah blah objects are dangerous, did we mention about the price of using objects and the dangerousnesscakes? there was no price for Joe becoming an object himself??? He just walks into the room, comes out with his daughter, and then drives off into the sunset? It made me wonder if maybe they'd originally planned for a bleaker ending, but the network didn't like it.


sumi - Dec 17, 2006 7:01:01 am PST #4607 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that you're probably right. Although I can imagine that if this was a series we would discover what the price is during the show.


Juliebird - Dec 17, 2006 7:02:23 am PST #4608 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

Lost Room: I think I would've preferred a bleaker ending as well. Such as Joe walks out with his daughter, and Julianna's character has no idea why she's there or who he is, and Ms. Fanning doesn't remember her father and is carted off to her mother, who as far as she can remember, has been a single mother since her kid was born after a forgettable one-night stand, and Joe is alone in the world, losing everything, so he has to find solace that his daughter is okay now.

and if it was turned into a series, I think the more tragic scenario would lend itself towards that as well (also, it gets Fanning and Marguiles out of the picture)


Juliebird - Dec 17, 2006 7:02:29 am PST #4609 of 10001
I am the fly who dreams of the spider

sumi - Dec 17, 2006 7:05:19 am PST #4610 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Okay, does Lost Room stuff really need to be whitefonted?

I can totally imagine that not only would Joe's daughter not know him -- but why would she even exist? If his being is no longer part of the dimension that he and Anna etc lived in -- why would she exist?

Or, it could be that what happened with the incident is that the original occupant got taken out of his own dimension and thrown into one in which he didn't exist. Perhaps, what could happen to Joe is that even though he thinks he's okay, actually at any moment he could be tossed into other versions of that reality.